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The result was no consensus. This No consensus closure doesn't mean that this article can't be turned into a Redirect, it just won't be as a result of this AFD. Please discuss this possibility on the article talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 23:31, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
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Mass-created article by bot Kotbot operated by retired user Kotniski. There is nothing at the location in the article. The nearest building is the forestry office for Boroszewo, the address of which is given in Wędkowy.
This is an osada, or settlement, not a village or hamlet. It is a status often given to individual buildings, but in this case it is not clear that anyone has ever lived at the location indicated in our article.
In terms of ATDs redirecting to Tczew or another larger settlement only makes sense if you think we should redirect simple place-names to articles that won't contain any content about them. I don't think that makes sense.
Fails WP:GEOLAND, WP:GNG, WP:NOPAGE FOARP ( talk) 08:42, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Poland. FOARP ( talk) 08:42, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep. I think hamlets meet GEOLAND. --
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here
06:34, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Piotrus - Please show that this place is actually a hamlet - it isn't registered as such.
FOARP (
talk)
07:50, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- TERYT
lists it (0990244) as
pl:osada which interwikis to
Hamlet (place).
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here
07:59, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
-
Polish law distinguishes between a hamlet (przysiółek), which should be a cluster of farms, and a settlement (osada), which can be a single building. Single buildings also do not qualify as a hamlet in English. That interwiki should probably be re-targeted to
Rural settlement, a term that embraces both hamlets and individual farms, similarly to osada.
FOARP (
talk)
08:35, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @
Piotrus, you asked to be pinged where there was a potential redirect for a place. In this case it would likely be
Boroszewo or
Wędkowy.
FOARP (
talk)
15:18, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- "or" is not good to have... should we toss a coin? @
Stok
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here
03:01, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- I corrected the coordinates, this is a settlement (small village). There is one residential building and one farm building. It is a forester's lodge in the Boryszew forest region. In Poland, settlements do not have "address" details, they are subordinated to villages, in this case it is Wędkowy 21.
Stok (
talk)
07:05, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- So, part of Wędkowy. FOARP ( talk) 14:30, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- You have WP:ONIS बिनोद थारू ( talk) 01:04, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
- I corrected the coordinates, this is a settlement (small village). There is one residential building and one farm building. It is a forester's lodge in the Boryszew forest region. In Poland, settlements do not have "address" details, they are subordinated to villages, in this case it is Wędkowy 21.
Stok (
talk)
07:05, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- "or" is not good to have... should we toss a coin? @
Stok
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here
03:01, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @
Piotrus, you asked to be pinged where there was a potential redirect for a place. In this case it would likely be
Boroszewo or
Wędkowy.
FOARP (
talk)
15:18, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
-
Polish law distinguishes between a hamlet (przysiółek), which should be a cluster of farms, and a settlement (osada), which can be a single building. Single buildings also do not qualify as a hamlet in English. That interwiki should probably be re-targeted to
Rural settlement, a term that embraces both hamlets and individual farms, similarly to osada.
FOARP (
talk)
08:35, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- TERYT
lists it (0990244) as
pl:osada which interwikis to
Hamlet (place).
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here
07:59, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Piotrus - Please show that this place is actually a hamlet - it isn't registered as such.
FOARP (
talk)
07:50, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 19:05, 21 October 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 ( talk) 23:24, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Piotrus: - Stok confirms this is part of Wędkowy, OK with redirecting there?
FOARP (
talk)
11:40, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
- @ FOARP If @ Stok agrees, I'll as well. Stok? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:37, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. Please do not wait for User:Stok to make your opinion final.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:18, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. This No consensus closure doesn't mean that this article can't be turned into a Redirect, it just won't be as a result of this AFD. Please discuss this possibility on the article talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 23:31, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
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- Polesie, Pomeranian Voivodeship ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Mass-created article by bot Kotbot operated by retired user Kotniski. There is nothing at the location in the article. The nearest building is the forestry office for Boroszewo, the address of which is given in Wędkowy.
This is an osada, or settlement, not a village or hamlet. It is a status often given to individual buildings, but in this case it is not clear that anyone has ever lived at the location indicated in our article.
In terms of ATDs redirecting to Tczew or another larger settlement only makes sense if you think we should redirect simple place-names to articles that won't contain any content about them. I don't think that makes sense.
Fails WP:GEOLAND, WP:GNG, WP:NOPAGE FOARP ( talk) 08:42, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Poland. FOARP ( talk) 08:42, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep. I think hamlets meet GEOLAND. --
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here
06:34, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Piotrus - Please show that this place is actually a hamlet - it isn't registered as such.
FOARP (
talk)
07:50, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- TERYT
lists it (0990244) as
pl:osada which interwikis to
Hamlet (place).
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here
07:59, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
-
Polish law distinguishes between a hamlet (przysiółek), which should be a cluster of farms, and a settlement (osada), which can be a single building. Single buildings also do not qualify as a hamlet in English. That interwiki should probably be re-targeted to
Rural settlement, a term that embraces both hamlets and individual farms, similarly to osada.
FOARP (
talk)
08:35, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @
Piotrus, you asked to be pinged where there was a potential redirect for a place. In this case it would likely be
Boroszewo or
Wędkowy.
FOARP (
talk)
15:18, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- "or" is not good to have... should we toss a coin? @
Stok
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here
03:01, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- I corrected the coordinates, this is a settlement (small village). There is one residential building and one farm building. It is a forester's lodge in the Boryszew forest region. In Poland, settlements do not have "address" details, they are subordinated to villages, in this case it is Wędkowy 21.
Stok (
talk)
07:05, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- So, part of Wędkowy. FOARP ( talk) 14:30, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- You have WP:ONIS बिनोद थारू ( talk) 01:04, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
- I corrected the coordinates, this is a settlement (small village). There is one residential building and one farm building. It is a forester's lodge in the Boryszew forest region. In Poland, settlements do not have "address" details, they are subordinated to villages, in this case it is Wędkowy 21.
Stok (
talk)
07:05, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- "or" is not good to have... should we toss a coin? @
Stok
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here
03:01, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @
Piotrus, you asked to be pinged where there was a potential redirect for a place. In this case it would likely be
Boroszewo or
Wędkowy.
FOARP (
talk)
15:18, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
-
Polish law distinguishes between a hamlet (przysiółek), which should be a cluster of farms, and a settlement (osada), which can be a single building. Single buildings also do not qualify as a hamlet in English. That interwiki should probably be re-targeted to
Rural settlement, a term that embraces both hamlets and individual farms, similarly to osada.
FOARP (
talk)
08:35, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- TERYT
lists it (0990244) as
pl:osada which interwikis to
Hamlet (place).
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here
07:59, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Piotrus - Please show that this place is actually a hamlet - it isn't registered as such.
FOARP (
talk)
07:50, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 19:05, 21 October 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 ( talk) 23:24, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
- @
Piotrus: - Stok confirms this is part of Wędkowy, OK with redirecting there?
FOARP (
talk)
11:40, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
- @ FOARP If @ Stok agrees, I'll as well. Stok? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:37, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist. Please do not wait for User:Stok to make your opinion final.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:18, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.