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The result was delete. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 22:27, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
Piet Mollin
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Fails NSPORTS and GNG due to lack of significant coverage. – dlthewave ☎ 19:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep. Dual European champion - see 1929 European Wrestling Championships and 1930 European Wrestling Championships. St Anselm ( talk) 19:48, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per StAnselm. His bio also has info about him being part of the Belgian resistance in WWII and surving a Nazi concentration camp, hinting towards further coverage post 1945 (he competed at the Olympics in 1928). Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:09, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Olympics-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:28, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- I originally closed as Keep but I'd really like to see some further sources, not just wikilinks. Let's give it some more time. -- Tone 12:55, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Guerillero Parlez Moi 16:43, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. No one has identified any SIGCOV in independent RS (a requirement for any NSPORT-based presumptions of meeting GNG to be remotely valid), and my own google search returned just 3 pages of hits, most of them wiki mirrors. If a website dedicated to researching Olympians can't even determine when this guy died, there's very little reason to expect significant coverage exists. JoelleJay ( talk) 05:28, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete The coverage offered by the sources in the article amounts to "Pierre Mollin had the following finishes at major championships", and virtually nothing comes up in a regular search. The topic therefore fails WP:BASIC. Avilich ( talk) 20:37, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete owing to a lack of significant coverage to meet WP:GNG. I also searched under the other names listed in Olympedia but found nothing. -- Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 21:35, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - The article fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORTS through the lack of significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Since there's no wrestling-specific guideline (that I'm aware of) WP:SPORTCRIT applies, which is bascially the same as WP:GNG in terms of what it's looking for, and championship wins are not a part of that criteria and do not confer notability based on any guideline that I am aware of. The championship wins would suggest the presence of reliable sources, but in this case that doesn't appear to pan out. - Aoidh ( talk) 06:07, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 22:27, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
Piet Mollin
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Fails NSPORTS and GNG due to lack of significant coverage. – dlthewave ☎ 19:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Wrestling, and Belgium. – dlthewave ☎ 19:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Dual European champion - see 1929 European Wrestling Championships and 1930 European Wrestling Championships. St Anselm ( talk) 19:48, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per StAnselm. His bio also has info about him being part of the Belgian resistance in WWII and surving a Nazi concentration camp, hinting towards further coverage post 1945 (he competed at the Olympics in 1928). Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:09, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Olympics-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:28, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- I originally closed as Keep but I'd really like to see some further sources, not just wikilinks. Let's give it some more time. -- Tone 12:55, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Guerillero Parlez Moi 16:43, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. No one has identified any SIGCOV in independent RS (a requirement for any NSPORT-based presumptions of meeting GNG to be remotely valid), and my own google search returned just 3 pages of hits, most of them wiki mirrors. If a website dedicated to researching Olympians can't even determine when this guy died, there's very little reason to expect significant coverage exists. JoelleJay ( talk) 05:28, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete The coverage offered by the sources in the article amounts to "Pierre Mollin had the following finishes at major championships", and virtually nothing comes up in a regular search. The topic therefore fails WP:BASIC. Avilich ( talk) 20:37, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete owing to a lack of significant coverage to meet WP:GNG. I also searched under the other names listed in Olympedia but found nothing. -- Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 21:35, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - The article fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORTS through the lack of significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Since there's no wrestling-specific guideline (that I'm aware of) WP:SPORTCRIT applies, which is bascially the same as WP:GNG in terms of what it's looking for, and championship wins are not a part of that criteria and do not confer notability based on any guideline that I am aware of. The championship wins would suggest the presence of reliable sources, but in this case that doesn't appear to pan out. - Aoidh ( talk) 06:07, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.