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The result was delete - consensus is that this person is not independently notable. – filelakeshoe ( t / c) 🐱 11:17, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
Philip Villa
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A previous article on this subject was deleted at AfD in November 2020. Regarding this current instance, it falls under the same concerns as before, as to whether coverage which is predominantly about the Yokkao company also establishes biographical notability for the individual. The coverage is mixed: some appears to be coverage originated from the company (Forbes/Ascend Brandvoice, Digital Journal/PRshouts, Muay Thai Citizen - which also features the photo cropped here as "own work"), and CNNMoney mentions the company but not the individual. A redirect to Yokkao could be an alternative, though as DGG noted in the earlier AfD, that article may also need some attention. AllyD ( talk) 07:37, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Sports, and Italy. AllyD ( talk) 07:37, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:53, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
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- Delete This designer of sportswear is not inherently notable for reasons described above. This article is a brick in the walled PR garden that includes Yokkao. Rhadow ( talk) 13:21, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep It can be kept as a stub, being notable enough. An article with enough notable sources (the sources mention both the founder and the company). Being an internationally known brand, we can also keep the founder's article.-- Samanthajjo ( talk) 16:36, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Appears to be sufficient coverage to meet GNG.-- Bexaendos ( talk) 10:34, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Although articles talk about him in relation to his company's products, none of them give more than shallow marketing information about his love of his sport, etc. and how that fits into his business. All of this makes more sense on the article for his company as the motivation behind his designs. And I agree that the Yokkao article is WAAAY over the top, with lists of every related event, etc., most of which is un-referenced. Lamona ( talk) 05:52, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - there is simply not enough in-depth coverage about him, and not his company, to meet WP:GNG. Redirect to the company would also be okay as per ATD. Onel5969 TT me 17:44, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - promotional and non-notable. Anarchyte ( talk) 08:48, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete - consensus is that this person is not independently notable. – filelakeshoe ( t / c) 🐱 11:17, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
Philip Villa
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- Philip Villa ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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A previous article on this subject was deleted at AfD in November 2020. Regarding this current instance, it falls under the same concerns as before, as to whether coverage which is predominantly about the Yokkao company also establishes biographical notability for the individual. The coverage is mixed: some appears to be coverage originated from the company (Forbes/Ascend Brandvoice, Digital Journal/PRshouts, Muay Thai Citizen - which also features the photo cropped here as "own work"), and CNNMoney mentions the company but not the individual. A redirect to Yokkao could be an alternative, though as DGG noted in the earlier AfD, that article may also need some attention. AllyD ( talk) 07:37, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Sports, and Italy. AllyD ( talk) 07:37, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:53, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:53, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete This designer of sportswear is not inherently notable for reasons described above. This article is a brick in the walled PR garden that includes Yokkao. Rhadow ( talk) 13:21, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep It can be kept as a stub, being notable enough. An article with enough notable sources (the sources mention both the founder and the company). Being an internationally known brand, we can also keep the founder's article.-- Samanthajjo ( talk) 16:36, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Appears to be sufficient coverage to meet GNG.-- Bexaendos ( talk) 10:34, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Although articles talk about him in relation to his company's products, none of them give more than shallow marketing information about his love of his sport, etc. and how that fits into his business. All of this makes more sense on the article for his company as the motivation behind his designs. And I agree that the Yokkao article is WAAAY over the top, with lists of every related event, etc., most of which is un-referenced. Lamona ( talk) 05:52, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - there is simply not enough in-depth coverage about him, and not his company, to meet WP:GNG. Redirect to the company would also be okay as per ATD. Onel5969 TT me 17:44, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - promotional and non-notable. Anarchyte ( talk) 08:48, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
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