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Coverage about this player is of the routine variety. Does not meet
WP:GNG, and apparently, and he may or may not meet
WP:GRIDIRON, as the Football Reference says he took a snap, but both it and nfl.com say he played zero seconds.
Onel5969TT me 18:45, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Speedy Keep, meets NGRIDIRON. Also, I do not see where you're saying its "0 seconds". It was 18 snaps, each of which takes multiple seconds.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 18:50, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
NFL.com also says he played in a game, so I do not see how you're getting "0 seconds".
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 18:53, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
And, like nearly every other NFL player ever, Quessenberry appears to meet GNG. See SIGCOV such as
[1],
[2],
[3],
[4],
[5], etc.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 19:10, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Maybe there's some confusion here with the "GS" ("games started") stat? (Or one of his admittedly many other "0" stats.) Why would NGRIDIRON in itself be grounds for a "speedy" keep? Or at least, the part of GRIDIRON other than the part of that guideline which says "In addition, the subjects of standalone articles should meet the General Notability Guideline." This does appear to be the case, though you'd be forgiven for missing it from the article at time of AfD nomination, which essentially made no actual claim of notability whatsoever. "He was elevated to the active roster for Week 16 and played one snap on offense and 17 snaps on special teams in his NFL debut." --CBSsports, which is maybe a somewhat better source than most of those offered above (if CBS itself confers any source-reliability on its sports website). Seems fairly marginal thus far on GNG; USA Today at least is a "perennial" reliable source, so maybe that gets it over the line. Possibly ironically, given that article's "what a weird signing" take on him.
109.255.211.6 (
talk) 20:18, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Reply; I think BeanieFan's basis for speedy keep is also supported by his SIGCOV articles he included above, just to be thorough.
Spf121188 (
talk) 18:25, 17 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep. The article says He made his NFL debut in week 16 against the Los Angeles Chargers, appearing on 18 snaps in the 41–29 win. So he meets
WP:NGRIDIRON as a player who has appeared in at least one regular season or post-season game in the NFL.
KidAd •
SPEAK 19:32, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Strong Speedy Keep per comments above. Nothing really needs to be added here. He clearly meets
WP:NGRIDIRON, which is more inclusive, but he also, in my opinion, meets
WP:GNG per
BeanieFan11 and
Cbl62's more than adequate research.
Spf121188 (
talk) 19:36, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep, for the reasons those who want to keep this article.
Davidgoodheart (
talk) 01:14, 19 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep - There are thousands of articles with no notability whatsoever that need deletion. This article clearly meets notability requirements, not sure why it was nominated.
Such-change47 (
talk) 12:28, 19 January 2022 (UTC)reply
KeepWP:NGRIDIRON just states "Have appeared in at least one regular season or post-season game in any one of the following professional leagues". Doesn't specify how much they have to play, just that they did. His pro football reference says he played 1 offensive snap and 17 on special teams against the Chargers for a grand total of 18 plays, which is roughly about 13% of the total plays from that game. That very clearly passes NGRIDIRON. And yes, it is
snowing.--Rockchalk717 23:15, 19 January 2022 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Coverage about this player is of the routine variety. Does not meet
WP:GNG, and apparently, and he may or may not meet
WP:GRIDIRON, as the Football Reference says he took a snap, but both it and nfl.com say he played zero seconds.
Onel5969TT me 18:45, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Speedy Keep, meets NGRIDIRON. Also, I do not see where you're saying its "0 seconds". It was 18 snaps, each of which takes multiple seconds.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 18:50, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
NFL.com also says he played in a game, so I do not see how you're getting "0 seconds".
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 18:53, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
And, like nearly every other NFL player ever, Quessenberry appears to meet GNG. See SIGCOV such as
[1],
[2],
[3],
[4],
[5], etc.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 19:10, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Maybe there's some confusion here with the "GS" ("games started") stat? (Or one of his admittedly many other "0" stats.) Why would NGRIDIRON in itself be grounds for a "speedy" keep? Or at least, the part of GRIDIRON other than the part of that guideline which says "In addition, the subjects of standalone articles should meet the General Notability Guideline." This does appear to be the case, though you'd be forgiven for missing it from the article at time of AfD nomination, which essentially made no actual claim of notability whatsoever. "He was elevated to the active roster for Week 16 and played one snap on offense and 17 snaps on special teams in his NFL debut." --CBSsports, which is maybe a somewhat better source than most of those offered above (if CBS itself confers any source-reliability on its sports website). Seems fairly marginal thus far on GNG; USA Today at least is a "perennial" reliable source, so maybe that gets it over the line. Possibly ironically, given that article's "what a weird signing" take on him.
109.255.211.6 (
talk) 20:18, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Reply; I think BeanieFan's basis for speedy keep is also supported by his SIGCOV articles he included above, just to be thorough.
Spf121188 (
talk) 18:25, 17 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep. The article says He made his NFL debut in week 16 against the Los Angeles Chargers, appearing on 18 snaps in the 41–29 win. So he meets
WP:NGRIDIRON as a player who has appeared in at least one regular season or post-season game in the NFL.
KidAd •
SPEAK 19:32, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Strong Speedy Keep per comments above. Nothing really needs to be added here. He clearly meets
WP:NGRIDIRON, which is more inclusive, but he also, in my opinion, meets
WP:GNG per
BeanieFan11 and
Cbl62's more than adequate research.
Spf121188 (
talk) 19:36, 14 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep, for the reasons those who want to keep this article.
Davidgoodheart (
talk) 01:14, 19 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep - There are thousands of articles with no notability whatsoever that need deletion. This article clearly meets notability requirements, not sure why it was nominated.
Such-change47 (
talk) 12:28, 19 January 2022 (UTC)reply
KeepWP:NGRIDIRON just states "Have appeared in at least one regular season or post-season game in any one of the following professional leagues". Doesn't specify how much they have to play, just that they did. His pro football reference says he played 1 offensive snap and 17 on special teams against the Chargers for a grand total of 18 plays, which is roughly about 13% of the total plays from that game. That very clearly passes NGRIDIRON. And yes, it is
snowing.--Rockchalk717 23:15, 19 January 2022 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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