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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Linguist111 ( talk) 03:01, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Patrick Yandall
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Article does not establish subject’s notability at all, with all references on the page being links to indexes that do not establish notability Mach61 ( talk) 00:32, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Mach61 ( talk) 00:44, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
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- Keep. Notable artist. Charting artist. A festival favorite throughout the US.
sdnews.com link
Chart info >>> - 2011, the release "The Window" on Innervision Records was featured worldwide! Chart-topping single off that, "Tower of Soul" reached #1 for 5 weeks on smoothjazznow chart and #1 on Radio Wave monitor for Live 365 smooth jazz! Top 30 for main Groove Jazz And featured CD on smoothjazz.com! .. .. .. Patricks 2009 smooth jazz release, "A New Day" with the #1 smooth jazz hit "I Am There" on radio wave monitor smooth jazz chart! (top 50 for 2009 Groove Jazz Chart!) Worldwide airplay and top 10 on Groove Jazz chart!
https://www.reverbnation.com/patrickyandall?popup_bio=true
Karl Twist ( talk) 05:53, 2 January 2023 (UTC) - Comment, the article was so poorly sourced. It needs work. I have done a little to kick it off, but I have other things to attend to. Karl Twist ( talk) 05:55, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - Fails GNG. Finding single mentions mostly in performance lineups, but not significant coverage. - Indy beetle ( talk) 22:19, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Delete The sourcing is poor and doesn't back up what the article claims. It seems the stated accomplishments such as having music featured in various media, and multiple recordings would point to RS coverage somewhere, so more leg work with research/sourcing needs to happen on that end. Is something so specifically insular as the San Diego Music awards significant criteria for notability? Maybe--but it would be nice to have a source that verifies as much. So far the justifications with the single Keep vote are puzzling, as the reference that purportedly shows that he is "a festival favorite throughout the US" is simply a name check that proves existence, not RS coverage that backs up the claim. The examples of chart activity seem to all lead to smoothjazz.com, which is a jazz promotion and marketing service ( see the about section on their website:
https://www.smoothjazz.com/marketing
so I don't know how any of these are significant charts. What we are left with is evidence of run of the mill coverage e.g. database listings, press releases, and performance notices. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 03:43, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Keep Never heard of the guy and not a jazz fan, but there seems to be adequate coverage in independent jazz publications and books (both found using Google). Yes, this article needs improvement and better sourcing, but the sources exist based on less than five minutes of looking. (Note that the above source, reverbnation, does not count as it includes artist created content). Rublamb ( talk) 22:57, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting for a week. If you find reliable sources, now is the time to link to them. Don't allude to finding stuff in Google searches without being specific so other editors can see what you are finding and evaluate these sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep has four staff written album reviews at AllMusic here, here, here, and here. Also the San Diego Music Awards seem to be notable going by their Wikipedia article. Atlantic306 ( talk) 23:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:HEY. While the article needs additional work, the subject appears to pass WP:NMUSIC. Bearian ( talk) 15:03, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to consider new sources found.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:36, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Linguist111 ( talk) 03:01, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Patrick Yandall
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Article does not establish subject’s notability at all, with all references on the page being links to indexes that do not establish notability Mach61 ( talk) 00:32, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Mach61 ( talk) 00:44, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of North Carolina-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 02:05, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Notable artist. Charting artist. A festival favorite throughout the US.
sdnews.com link
Chart info >>> - 2011, the release "The Window" on Innervision Records was featured worldwide! Chart-topping single off that, "Tower of Soul" reached #1 for 5 weeks on smoothjazznow chart and #1 on Radio Wave monitor for Live 365 smooth jazz! Top 30 for main Groove Jazz And featured CD on smoothjazz.com! .. .. .. Patricks 2009 smooth jazz release, "A New Day" with the #1 smooth jazz hit "I Am There" on radio wave monitor smooth jazz chart! (top 50 for 2009 Groove Jazz Chart!) Worldwide airplay and top 10 on Groove Jazz chart!
https://www.reverbnation.com/patrickyandall?popup_bio=true
Karl Twist ( talk) 05:53, 2 January 2023 (UTC) - Comment, the article was so poorly sourced. It needs work. I have done a little to kick it off, but I have other things to attend to. Karl Twist ( talk) 05:55, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - Fails GNG. Finding single mentions mostly in performance lineups, but not significant coverage. - Indy beetle ( talk) 22:19, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Delete The sourcing is poor and doesn't back up what the article claims. It seems the stated accomplishments such as having music featured in various media, and multiple recordings would point to RS coverage somewhere, so more leg work with research/sourcing needs to happen on that end. Is something so specifically insular as the San Diego Music awards significant criteria for notability? Maybe--but it would be nice to have a source that verifies as much. So far the justifications with the single Keep vote are puzzling, as the reference that purportedly shows that he is "a festival favorite throughout the US" is simply a name check that proves existence, not RS coverage that backs up the claim. The examples of chart activity seem to all lead to smoothjazz.com, which is a jazz promotion and marketing service ( see the about section on their website:
https://www.smoothjazz.com/marketing
so I don't know how any of these are significant charts. What we are left with is evidence of run of the mill coverage e.g. database listings, press releases, and performance notices. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 03:43, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
- Weak Keep Never heard of the guy and not a jazz fan, but there seems to be adequate coverage in independent jazz publications and books (both found using Google). Yes, this article needs improvement and better sourcing, but the sources exist based on less than five minutes of looking. (Note that the above source, reverbnation, does not count as it includes artist created content). Rublamb ( talk) 22:57, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting for a week. If you find reliable sources, now is the time to link to them. Don't allude to finding stuff in Google searches without being specific so other editors can see what you are finding and evaluate these sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep has four staff written album reviews at AllMusic here, here, here, and here. Also the San Diego Music Awards seem to be notable going by their Wikipedia article. Atlantic306 ( talk) 23:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:HEY. While the article needs additional work, the subject appears to pass WP:NMUSIC. Bearian ( talk) 15:03, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to consider new sources found.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:36, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.