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The result was article repurposed to cover related notable topic‎. signed, Rosguill talk 02:38, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
On The Flip Side – Original Cast Album
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Non notable album. Search shows no sources to show notability. The only reference included is to an AllMusic page, which would be fine except there is no reviews for the album. Schminnte ( talk • contribs) 00:45, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
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Delete Neither the album nor the musical it's associate with appear to be notable. Significa liberdade ( talk) 01:05, 8 October 2023 (UTC)Keep and move per 4meter4. Significa liberdade (she/her) ( talk) 21:19, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 00:49, 15 October 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:41, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- (updated) Keep or Draftify. Any studio album by Rick Nelson is almost certainly going to be notable. We can probably cover both album and musical in a single page per WP:NOPAGE, so I'm going to lump the coverage I can currently find together. Here's an interesting note that the musical has been screened in a notable museum [1]. Here's some coverage [2]. Here's a paragraph of coverage [3]. This points us at reviews in Variety, and coverage in Ricky Nelson: Idols for a Generation [4]. — siro χ o 08:05, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep and move to On the Flip Side and repurpose as an article on the television musical which easily passes WP:SIGCOV. The album content can remain in a subsection of that article. Reference works with entries on this musical include Joan Baxter (2020). "On the Flip Side". Television Musicals: Plots, Critiques, Casts and Credits for 222 Shows Written for and Presented on Television, 1944-1996. McFarland & Company. ISBN 9781476641898. and "On the Flip Side". Television Specials: 5,336 Entertainment Programs, 1936-2012, 2d Ed. McFarland & Company. p. 286. ISBN 9780786474448. There is also coverage in Robin Platts (2003). Burt Bacharach & Hal David: What the World Needs Now. Collector's Guide Publishing. p. 51-52. ISBN 9781896522777. and T. Mike Childs (2014). "O'Conner, Carlos". The Rocklopedia Fakebandica. St. Martin's Publishing Group. p. 156. ISBN 9781466873018. There is quite a lot of coverage of the album and television program in multiple places in Serene Dominic (2003). Burt Bacharach: Song By Song. Schirmer Trade Books. ISBN 9780857122599. and there are many articles covering the work in newspapers.com in the month of December 1966. There is a review of the cast album in "Special Merit Picks: On the Flip Side". Billboard: 31. December 31, 1966. The article can be improved in main space. No need for draftifying. 4meter4 ( talk) 22:47, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Update. I moved the article per the comments above, retooled the article as a stub on the television musical, and added sources. The sources have more which could be used to expand the article, including a critical commentary section and plot synopsis in the book by Baxter and an entry about the main character from the musical in the book by Childs. There's also analysis of the individual songs in the musical in the book by Serene Dominic. An in-depth article could be written with the cited sources if anyone cares to take it on. @ Ssilvers were you intending your above comment as a keep vote? You may wish to clarify your opinion in a formal vote if so. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 19:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Has adequate referencing to discern notability now. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 01:23, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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The result was article repurposed to cover related notable topic‎. signed, Rosguill talk 02:38, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
On The Flip Side – Original Cast Album
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Non notable album. Search shows no sources to show notability. The only reference included is to an AllMusic page, which would be fine except there is no reviews for the album. Schminnte ( talk • contribs) 00:45, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the
deletion sorting lists for the following topics:
Albums and songs,
Music, and
Television.
Schminnte (
talk •
contribs) 00:45, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Delete Neither the album nor the musical it's associate with appear to be notable. Significa liberdade ( talk) 01:05, 8 October 2023 (UTC)Keep and move per 4meter4. Significa liberdade (she/her) ( talk) 21:19, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 00:49, 15 October 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:41, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- (updated) Keep or Draftify. Any studio album by Rick Nelson is almost certainly going to be notable. We can probably cover both album and musical in a single page per WP:NOPAGE, so I'm going to lump the coverage I can currently find together. Here's an interesting note that the musical has been screened in a notable museum [1]. Here's some coverage [2]. Here's a paragraph of coverage [3]. This points us at reviews in Variety, and coverage in Ricky Nelson: Idols for a Generation [4]. — siro χ o 08:05, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep and move to On the Flip Side and repurpose as an article on the television musical which easily passes WP:SIGCOV. The album content can remain in a subsection of that article. Reference works with entries on this musical include Joan Baxter (2020). "On the Flip Side". Television Musicals: Plots, Critiques, Casts and Credits for 222 Shows Written for and Presented on Television, 1944-1996. McFarland & Company. ISBN 9781476641898. and "On the Flip Side". Television Specials: 5,336 Entertainment Programs, 1936-2012, 2d Ed. McFarland & Company. p. 286. ISBN 9780786474448. There is also coverage in Robin Platts (2003). Burt Bacharach & Hal David: What the World Needs Now. Collector's Guide Publishing. p. 51-52. ISBN 9781896522777. and T. Mike Childs (2014). "O'Conner, Carlos". The Rocklopedia Fakebandica. St. Martin's Publishing Group. p. 156. ISBN 9781466873018. There is quite a lot of coverage of the album and television program in multiple places in Serene Dominic (2003). Burt Bacharach: Song By Song. Schirmer Trade Books. ISBN 9780857122599. and there are many articles covering the work in newspapers.com in the month of December 1966. There is a review of the cast album in "Special Merit Picks: On the Flip Side". Billboard: 31. December 31, 1966. The article can be improved in main space. No need for draftifying. 4meter4 ( talk) 22:47, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Update. I moved the article per the comments above, retooled the article as a stub on the television musical, and added sources. The sources have more which could be used to expand the article, including a critical commentary section and plot synopsis in the book by Baxter and an entry about the main character from the musical in the book by Childs. There's also analysis of the individual songs in the musical in the book by Serene Dominic. An in-depth article could be written with the cited sources if anyone cares to take it on. @ Ssilvers were you intending your above comment as a keep vote? You may wish to clarify your opinion in a formal vote if so. Best. 4meter4 ( talk) 19:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Has adequate referencing to discern notability now. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 01:23, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
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