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The result was Return to draft. Slight supervote because its seems better to give the creator time to find better sources than just deleting outright. Just a reminder that a BLP requires good sourcing unless there is a very clear SNG pass. Spartaz Humbug! 06:27, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
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No significant coverage, just a handful of routine reports. No notability of any kind has been established. 5225C ( talk • contributions) 11:06, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Since this was created through AfC, I would like to hear reviewer @
SL93:'s reasoning for accepting the draft given it does not meet a single criteria of
WP:NMOTORSPORT and has a very small selection of sources (one being an entry list, another being an Instagram post, and none covering the subject in depth).
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- Comment: 5225C I was unsure if it met WP:NMOTORSPORT and so was the AFC commenter before me. It's not like the articles for the races make it clear to non-fans whether they are fully professional or not. I didn't know where best to ask for opinions until recently and I was only trying to make a decision on a draft that has been in AfC for months...since no one there apparently understood that guideline either. SL93 ( talk) 15:09, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think any of these sources meet the requirement for significant coverage. They are both short recaps of his results and entries. Other articles simply note his participation in different series. There's none of the ongoing, subject-specific coverage required for notability to be established. If a driver's notability was established based on the number of articles in which they were mentioned, than we'd be writing articles for every second F4 driver – that's partly why
WP:NMOTORSPORT exists. In the end, the subject is just another junior formulae driver and hasn't received much more than the passing interest given to most.
5225C ( talk • contributions) 23:36, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- Well, then from what I've seen over the years, all of the individual sports notability guidelines need an overhaul. I see plenty of articles of professional athletes that can stay around only because they are professional - despite having absolutely no significant coverage. It's backwards thinking in my mind. Though that's a discussion for somewhere else that I know won't result in anything else. SL93 ( talk) 23:44, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think any of these sources meet the requirement for significant coverage. They are both short recaps of his results and entries. Other articles simply note his participation in different series. There's none of the ongoing, subject-specific coverage required for notability to be established. If a driver's notability was established based on the number of articles in which they were mentioned, than we'd be writing articles for every second F4 driver – that's partly why
WP:NMOTORSPORT exists. In the end, the subject is just another junior formulae driver and hasn't received much more than the passing interest given to most.
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- Delete per nom. I'm also unconvinced they meet GNG, and they certainly haven't competed in any series major enough to justify under WP:NMOTORSPORT. A7V2 ( talk) 10:10, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
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The result was Return to draft. Slight supervote because its seems better to give the creator time to find better sources than just deleting outright. Just a reminder that a BLP requires good sourcing unless there is a very clear SNG pass. Spartaz Humbug! 06:27, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
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No significant coverage, just a handful of routine reports. No notability of any kind has been established. 5225C ( talk • contributions) 11:06, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Since this was created through AfC, I would like to hear reviewer @
SL93:'s reasoning for accepting the draft given it does not meet a single criteria of
WP:NMOTORSPORT and has a very small selection of sources (one being an entry list, another being an Instagram post, and none covering the subject in depth).
5225C (
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contributions)
11:13, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. 5225C ( talk • contributions) 11:06, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Comment: 5225C I was unsure if it met WP:NMOTORSPORT and so was the AFC commenter before me. It's not like the articles for the races make it clear to non-fans whether they are fully professional or not. I didn't know where best to ask for opinions until recently and I was only trying to make a decision on a draft that has been in AfC for months...since no one there apparently understood that guideline either. SL93 ( talk) 15:09, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think any of these sources meet the requirement for significant coverage. They are both short recaps of his results and entries. Other articles simply note his participation in different series. There's none of the ongoing, subject-specific coverage required for notability to be established. If a driver's notability was established based on the number of articles in which they were mentioned, than we'd be writing articles for every second F4 driver – that's partly why
WP:NMOTORSPORT exists. In the end, the subject is just another junior formulae driver and hasn't received much more than the passing interest given to most.
5225C ( talk • contributions) 23:36, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- Well, then from what I've seen over the years, all of the individual sports notability guidelines need an overhaul. I see plenty of articles of professional athletes that can stay around only because they are professional - despite having absolutely no significant coverage. It's backwards thinking in my mind. Though that's a discussion for somewhere else that I know won't result in anything else. SL93 ( talk) 23:44, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think any of these sources meet the requirement for significant coverage. They are both short recaps of his results and entries. Other articles simply note his participation in different series. There's none of the ongoing, subject-specific coverage required for notability to be established. If a driver's notability was established based on the number of articles in which they were mentioned, than we'd be writing articles for every second F4 driver – that's partly why
WP:NMOTORSPORT exists. In the end, the subject is just another junior formulae driver and hasn't received much more than the passing interest given to most.
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:07, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. I'm also unconvinced they meet GNG, and they certainly haven't competed in any series major enough to justify under WP:NMOTORSPORT. A7V2 ( talk) 10:10, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
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