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The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 06:49, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
Nate Bloom
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Notability? Anmccaff ( talk) 06:12, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep over 300 linked wiki articles use this author as a source as well as major publications like the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post. I can look for more if needed. There are numerous books that use him as a source as well. Patapsco913 ( talk) 07:17, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete - does not meet WP:NAUTHOR criteria. Of course the subject has articles - he is a columnist. That does not make him notable.-- Rpclod ( talk) 14:22, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - the editor objecting to deletion, User:Patapsco913, created this article on 23 December, today added a huge number of Nate Bloom WP:LINKSPAM to Wikipedia articles, in most cases adding it as gratuitous WP:OVERCITING to articles that already had proper RS cites to support Jewish heritage. This strikes me as highly suspicious evidence that this is a WP:COI editor, and his comments should be taken in that perspective. And given the dozens of such cites today alone, I would also take his "300 wiki articles" statement in that perspective. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 18:27, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- He is a good source. I really don't care if this article is deleted. I just though that people should be able to refer to someone who is being used throughout wikipedia. Many of the citations are either archived, questionable reliability, or unlinked.
Patapsco913 (
talk) 18:39, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- anyhow the edits I added were:
- He is a good source. I really don't care if this article is deleted. I just though that people should be able to refer to someone who is being used throughout wikipedia. Many of the citations are either archived, questionable reliability, or unlinked.
Patapsco913 (
talk) 18:39, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Max Mutchnick - exiting limit was unverifiable
- Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver - added both sources including Bloom to support the assertion made in the article
- Debra Granik - I added because two sources that are less detailed from two authors is better than one
- Alan Menken - I don't think playbill is seen as an overly reliable source and the mention was cursory "Another early show was Dear Worthy Editor, based on letters to the editor of the Jewish Daily Forward, which, he said, "I was talked into writing by my mother." Engel called Dear Worthy Editor "the most anti-Semitic thing he'd ever heard in his life," said Menken, who is Jewish, to great laughter." so I figured two citations was good.
- Todd Lieberman - I figured two citations was better than one
- Michael Zegen - completely unnecessary on my part
- Paul Reiser - the exiting source states "Though Stuyvesant Town drew its residents from many ethnic groups, the predominant ones were Jewish and Irish Catholic, he said. There was a Jewish basketball playground and there was a Catholic basketball playground. We never played together, he said." and of course we know he is Jewish given his name but the source does not say that specifically.
- Corey Stoll - I added a 2nd citation
- Peter Strauss - unnecessary on my part
- Rosalind Franklin - added a 2nd source - the exiting source is questionable as to reliability http://www.londonremembers.com/subjects/rosalind-franklin
- Kat Dennings - added as link was dead and 2nd citation did not have url
- Josh Gad - not needed
- Ellen Barkin - WaPo source is subscription so I added another source.
- Larry Kramer - exisitng link does not mention Jewish
- Joel Grey - the sources http://www.filmreference.com/film/58/Joel-Grey.html and https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/features/leisure/arts/article_f8858a68-d5a8-11e1-a7fa-001a4bcf887a.html does not mention Jewish (the 2nd implies that his father was) as does the 3rd https://case.edu/ech/articles/k/katz-meyer-myron/
Patapsco913 ( talk) 19:24, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. He appears to be just another specialty-newspaper columnist. All the sources we have are either by him or quoting him, not providing the in-depth coverage about him needed for WP:GNG. — David Eppstein ( talk) 21:08, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Killiondude ( talk) 06:49, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
Nate Bloom
- Nate Bloom ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Notability? Anmccaff ( talk) 06:12, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep over 300 linked wiki articles use this author as a source as well as major publications like the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post. I can look for more if needed. There are numerous books that use him as a source as well. Patapsco913 ( talk) 07:17, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete - does not meet WP:NAUTHOR criteria. Of course the subject has articles - he is a columnist. That does not make him notable.-- Rpclod ( talk) 14:22, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - the editor objecting to deletion, User:Patapsco913, created this article on 23 December, today added a huge number of Nate Bloom WP:LINKSPAM to Wikipedia articles, in most cases adding it as gratuitous WP:OVERCITING to articles that already had proper RS cites to support Jewish heritage. This strikes me as highly suspicious evidence that this is a WP:COI editor, and his comments should be taken in that perspective. And given the dozens of such cites today alone, I would also take his "300 wiki articles" statement in that perspective. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 18:27, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- He is a good source. I really don't care if this article is deleted. I just though that people should be able to refer to someone who is being used throughout wikipedia. Many of the citations are either archived, questionable reliability, or unlinked.
Patapsco913 (
talk) 18:39, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- anyhow the edits I added were:
- He is a good source. I really don't care if this article is deleted. I just though that people should be able to refer to someone who is being used throughout wikipedia. Many of the citations are either archived, questionable reliability, or unlinked.
Patapsco913 (
talk) 18:39, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Max Mutchnick - exiting limit was unverifiable
- Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver - added both sources including Bloom to support the assertion made in the article
- Debra Granik - I added because two sources that are less detailed from two authors is better than one
- Alan Menken - I don't think playbill is seen as an overly reliable source and the mention was cursory "Another early show was Dear Worthy Editor, based on letters to the editor of the Jewish Daily Forward, which, he said, "I was talked into writing by my mother." Engel called Dear Worthy Editor "the most anti-Semitic thing he'd ever heard in his life," said Menken, who is Jewish, to great laughter." so I figured two citations was good.
- Todd Lieberman - I figured two citations was better than one
- Michael Zegen - completely unnecessary on my part
- Paul Reiser - the exiting source states "Though Stuyvesant Town drew its residents from many ethnic groups, the predominant ones were Jewish and Irish Catholic, he said. There was a Jewish basketball playground and there was a Catholic basketball playground. We never played together, he said." and of course we know he is Jewish given his name but the source does not say that specifically.
- Corey Stoll - I added a 2nd citation
- Peter Strauss - unnecessary on my part
- Rosalind Franklin - added a 2nd source - the exiting source is questionable as to reliability http://www.londonremembers.com/subjects/rosalind-franklin
- Kat Dennings - added as link was dead and 2nd citation did not have url
- Josh Gad - not needed
- Ellen Barkin - WaPo source is subscription so I added another source.
- Larry Kramer - exisitng link does not mention Jewish
- Joel Grey - the sources http://www.filmreference.com/film/58/Joel-Grey.html and https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/features/leisure/arts/article_f8858a68-d5a8-11e1-a7fa-001a4bcf887a.html does not mention Jewish (the 2nd implies that his father was) as does the 3rd https://case.edu/ech/articles/k/katz-meyer-myron/
Patapsco913 ( talk) 19:24, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. He appears to be just another specialty-newspaper columnist. All the sources we have are either by him or quoting him, not providing the in-depth coverage about him needed for WP:GNG. — David Eppstein ( talk) 21:08, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
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