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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Star Mississippi 16:04, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NORG. The sources are almost entirely PR-based or non-independent and affiliated with the conference and its founder. No actual in-depth coverage in reliable secondary sources, just press releases and blog posts. Previously PRODed by another editor, disputed by page creator. — Ganesha811 ( talk) 11:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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Ganesha811 (
talk)
11:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- @
Ganesha811: Hi, I'm the author of this article. Measure of Music (MoM) is not a company or organization, it's an annual event – do you think it shouldn't be held to the same standards as
Wikipedia:NORG? Is there something more comparable we can explore? Many of the peer articles on the main
Category:Music conferences list have the same caliber of PR based sources, which is where I got the idea to make this contribution. For reference, I mirrored other international reoccurring events like
M for Montreal,
Japan Music Week,
Midwest Music Summit, and
International Music Conference while researching and building this article for MoM. Thanks for your suggestions.
Copeland.powell (
talk)
12:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ganesha811 had earlier suggested two criteria against which such a recurring event can be evaluated. Both require "significant coverage", see WP:SIGCOV. Let's check the very first source (musebycl.io): it is a site self-declared as "Home to Creative Marketing, Advertising News", clearly fails the "Reliable" criterion. Attempt to view the content (to other editors: disable the Javascript first!) is blocked by an enormous pop-up ad. Past the ad, an interview by the founder, clearly fails "Independent of subject". We are all volunteers here, very few people would check any further. I did: the second source (Technical.ly) is by the founder herself.
- Arguing that some other articles are not properly sourced either generally does not work, see WP:WHATABOUT (maybe they should eb deleted, too? maybe better sources exist, just not added to the article yet?).
- Викидим ( talk) 17:28, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- @
Ganesha811: Hi, I'm the author of this article. Measure of Music (MoM) is not a company or organization, it's an annual event – do you think it shouldn't be held to the same standards as
Wikipedia:NORG? Is there something more comparable we can explore? Many of the peer articles on the main
Category:Music conferences list have the same caliber of PR based sources, which is where I got the idea to make this contribution. For reference, I mirrored other international reoccurring events like
M for Montreal,
Japan Music Week,
Midwest Music Summit, and
International Music Conference while researching and building this article for MoM. Thanks for your suggestions.
Copeland.powell (
talk)
12:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and checking some of the references above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Викидим ( talk • contribs) 17:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Internet. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Star Mississippi 16:04, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Measure of Music (conference) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NORG. The sources are almost entirely PR-based or non-independent and affiliated with the conference and its founder. No actual in-depth coverage in reliable secondary sources, just press releases and blog posts. Previously PRODed by another editor, disputed by page creator. — Ganesha811 ( talk) 11:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the
deletion sorting lists for the following topics:
Music and
Organizations. —
Ganesha811 (
talk)
11:22, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- @
Ganesha811: Hi, I'm the author of this article. Measure of Music (MoM) is not a company or organization, it's an annual event – do you think it shouldn't be held to the same standards as
Wikipedia:NORG? Is there something more comparable we can explore? Many of the peer articles on the main
Category:Music conferences list have the same caliber of PR based sources, which is where I got the idea to make this contribution. For reference, I mirrored other international reoccurring events like
M for Montreal,
Japan Music Week,
Midwest Music Summit, and
International Music Conference while researching and building this article for MoM. Thanks for your suggestions.
Copeland.powell (
talk)
12:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ganesha811 had earlier suggested two criteria against which such a recurring event can be evaluated. Both require "significant coverage", see WP:SIGCOV. Let's check the very first source (musebycl.io): it is a site self-declared as "Home to Creative Marketing, Advertising News", clearly fails the "Reliable" criterion. Attempt to view the content (to other editors: disable the Javascript first!) is blocked by an enormous pop-up ad. Past the ad, an interview by the founder, clearly fails "Independent of subject". We are all volunteers here, very few people would check any further. I did: the second source (Technical.ly) is by the founder herself.
- Arguing that some other articles are not properly sourced either generally does not work, see WP:WHATABOUT (maybe they should eb deleted, too? maybe better sources exist, just not added to the article yet?).
- Викидим ( talk) 17:28, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- @
Ganesha811: Hi, I'm the author of this article. Measure of Music (MoM) is not a company or organization, it's an annual event – do you think it shouldn't be held to the same standards as
Wikipedia:NORG? Is there something more comparable we can explore? Many of the peer articles on the main
Category:Music conferences list have the same caliber of PR based sources, which is where I got the idea to make this contribution. For reference, I mirrored other international reoccurring events like
M for Montreal,
Japan Music Week,
Midwest Music Summit, and
International Music Conference while researching and building this article for MoM. Thanks for your suggestions.
Copeland.powell (
talk)
12:15, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and checking some of the references above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Викидим ( talk • contribs) 17:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Internet. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.