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The result was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 01:07, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Matthias Manasi
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Autobiographical self-promotional article written entirely by SPAs (who are all clearly socks/meats of each other; listed below). Voceditenore has gamely given it a massive cleanup, but it still doesn't have any notability, even with her searching for more info. Fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO; the only significant coverage seems to be five sentences here: [1]. (The Nickel City Opera bio is not at all reliable or independent.) See also discussion here: WT:WikiProject Opera#Need eyes on two articles.
- Added article Matthias Daniel Manasi to the list of articles to be included in the AfD. It was created by one of the alleged Socks listed below. reddogsix ( talk) 03:11, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- This new one should be speedily deleted per WP:A10 (recently created duplicate of an existing topic). The text is identical to this version of Matthias Manasi. Voceditenore ( talk) 06:16, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
Softlavender ( talk) 12:14, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Voceditenore ( talk) 12:55, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Voceditenore ( talk) 12:59, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been notified to WikiProject Classical music. Voceditenore ( talk) 13:06, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been notified to WikiProject Opera. Voceditenore ( talk) 13:06, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. MassiveYR ♠ 13:20, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete I have been unable, despite extensive searches, to find a single article about this German conductor/pianist or a single review of his work. Note that the link cited above with the five sentences about him [2] is not an independent source. It is a blurb on the website of the orchestra for whom he was conducting part of a concert. The subject fails WP:GNG and also fails the alternative criteria at WP:MUSICBIO. There is no significant recording career. The one listed in the article (where he plays the harpsichord on an opera recording, but was not the conductor), is the only one I could find. He has won no prizes (significant or otherwise). Voceditenore ( talk) 12:44, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. Comprehensively fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO, as pointed out above. Smerus ( talk) 13:17, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable musician. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 13:42, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as non-notable. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 15:23, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- It may just be too early for an article, but for now Delete. Smallbones( smalltalk) 00:16, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as non-notable. Double sharp ( talk) 03:26, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note to closing admin: Given the absurd persistence of the COI SPA sockfarm, both article titles should probably be salted if this AfD results in deletion. Softlavender ( talk) 07:41, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- I concur on the salting. Note also that given the latest shenanigans, I have started an SPI. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ArtistForum. Voceditenore ( talk) 08:41, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 21:35, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
- Delete (and salt). Clearly fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Edwardx ( talk) 10:35, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
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The result was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 01:07, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Matthias Manasi
- Matthias Manasi ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Autobiographical self-promotional article written entirely by SPAs (who are all clearly socks/meats of each other; listed below). Voceditenore has gamely given it a massive cleanup, but it still doesn't have any notability, even with her searching for more info. Fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO; the only significant coverage seems to be five sentences here: [1]. (The Nickel City Opera bio is not at all reliable or independent.) See also discussion here: WT:WikiProject Opera#Need eyes on two articles.
- Added article Matthias Daniel Manasi to the list of articles to be included in the AfD. It was created by one of the alleged Socks listed below. reddogsix ( talk) 03:11, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- This new one should be speedily deleted per WP:A10 (recently created duplicate of an existing topic). The text is identical to this version of Matthias Manasi. Voceditenore ( talk) 06:16, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
Softlavender ( talk) 12:14, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Voceditenore ( talk) 12:55, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Voceditenore ( talk) 12:59, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been notified to WikiProject Classical music. Voceditenore ( talk) 13:06, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been notified to WikiProject Opera. Voceditenore ( talk) 13:06, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. MassiveYR ♠ 13:20, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete I have been unable, despite extensive searches, to find a single article about this German conductor/pianist or a single review of his work. Note that the link cited above with the five sentences about him [2] is not an independent source. It is a blurb on the website of the orchestra for whom he was conducting part of a concert. The subject fails WP:GNG and also fails the alternative criteria at WP:MUSICBIO. There is no significant recording career. The one listed in the article (where he plays the harpsichord on an opera recording, but was not the conductor), is the only one I could find. He has won no prizes (significant or otherwise). Voceditenore ( talk) 12:44, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. Comprehensively fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO, as pointed out above. Smerus ( talk) 13:17, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable musician. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 13:42, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as non-notable. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 15:23, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- It may just be too early for an article, but for now Delete. Smallbones( smalltalk) 00:16, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete as non-notable. Double sharp ( talk) 03:26, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- Note to closing admin: Given the absurd persistence of the COI SPA sockfarm, both article titles should probably be salted if this AfD results in deletion. Softlavender ( talk) 07:41, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- I concur on the salting. Note also that given the latest shenanigans, I have started an SPI. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ArtistForum. Voceditenore ( talk) 08:41, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 21:35, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
- Delete (and salt). Clearly fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Edwardx ( talk) 10:35, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.