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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 02:09, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Lukas Katenda
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WP:GNG. Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 01:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Religion. Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 01:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Christianity and Africa. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:24, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Dubious REACH-Namibia seems to be a small denomination, with 14 churches. I amended the article to provide a link to the article on the denomination, but this proves to be a red-link. Possibly there is an article that I have not found. The consensus is that bishops of major denominations are notable per se. My question is whether a denomination of this size is large enough for its leader to be WP-notable. Peterkingiron ( talk) 14:36, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Further investigation led me to Reformed Evangelical Anglican Church of South Africa, which has a section on Namibia. Peterkingiron ( talk) 14:40, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- A bishop over 14 churches is reasonably major span, but with a current tenure, we should be able to find online refs covering this somewhere.
Jclemens (
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20:11, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep New Era seems to quote him all the time, such as [1], which seems to support a prominent role. I'd encourage more eyes on the coverage he gets through Google News--I don't typically add 'weak' to a keep !vote, but the majority of his independent RS news coverage does seem to come from this one source. Jclemens ( talk) 20:17, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: bishops are generally notable per WP:CLERGY. Granted, this denomination is not in the Anglican Communion, but it employs a similar definition of "bishop". In any case, there is lots of coverage in Google News, including The Namibian [2] [3] [4] and AllAfrica.com [5] as well as the copious amount of coverage in New Era, as mentioned above. He's obviously a big deal in his country. St Anselm ( talk) 22:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: as per
WP:RELIG/N ... The bishops of major Christian denominations are notable by virtue of their status. They are notable, simply due their status. And until that notability guideline is changed, that is what prevails. --
Whiteguru (
talk)
07:05, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- REACH-Namibia is not a 'major Christian denomination'. Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 13:57, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep as per StAnselm this topic meets notability per WP:CLERGY. Worldsolarpower ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:00, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep as per the multiple reliable sources coverage identified in this discussion so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 ( talk) 17:12, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 02:09, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Lukas Katenda
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WP:GNG. Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 01:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Religion. Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 01:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Christianity and Africa. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:24, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Dubious REACH-Namibia seems to be a small denomination, with 14 churches. I amended the article to provide a link to the article on the denomination, but this proves to be a red-link. Possibly there is an article that I have not found. The consensus is that bishops of major denominations are notable per se. My question is whether a denomination of this size is large enough for its leader to be WP-notable. Peterkingiron ( talk) 14:36, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Further investigation led me to Reformed Evangelical Anglican Church of South Africa, which has a section on Namibia. Peterkingiron ( talk) 14:40, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- A bishop over 14 churches is reasonably major span, but with a current tenure, we should be able to find online refs covering this somewhere.
Jclemens (
talk)
20:11, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep New Era seems to quote him all the time, such as [1], which seems to support a prominent role. I'd encourage more eyes on the coverage he gets through Google News--I don't typically add 'weak' to a keep !vote, but the majority of his independent RS news coverage does seem to come from this one source. Jclemens ( talk) 20:17, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: bishops are generally notable per WP:CLERGY. Granted, this denomination is not in the Anglican Communion, but it employs a similar definition of "bishop". In any case, there is lots of coverage in Google News, including The Namibian [2] [3] [4] and AllAfrica.com [5] as well as the copious amount of coverage in New Era, as mentioned above. He's obviously a big deal in his country. St Anselm ( talk) 22:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: as per
WP:RELIG/N ... The bishops of major Christian denominations are notable by virtue of their status. They are notable, simply due their status. And until that notability guideline is changed, that is what prevails. --
Whiteguru (
talk)
07:05, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- REACH-Namibia is not a 'major Christian denomination'. Ari T. Benchaim ( talk) 13:57, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep as per StAnselm this topic meets notability per WP:CLERGY. Worldsolarpower ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:00, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep as per the multiple reliable sources coverage identified in this discussion so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 ( talk) 17:12, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.