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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was 'Trainwreck' which turns into a no-consensus article retention. While some of the keep !votes are not policy based, a sock nomination should probably have been thrown out sooner. This can be revisited if an established editor finds merit, and I'd suggest seming an AfD from the very beginning. Star Mississippi 01:37, 20 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Lucky Bisht

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non notable film maker. Doesn't meet WP:NFILMMAKER ClickWiki ( talk) 11:17, 27 September 2022 (UTC) sock nomination MER-C 18:29, 5 October 2022 (UTC) reply


  • Keep: Lucky Bisht is a notable Indian personality and a book is being written on his life story by renowned crime writer, Hussain Zaidi. Eventually, the book will be made into a Bollywood movie. All articles has enough references which are independent and reliableIt has enough citations on trusted reliable, independent resources such as:

[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]

Jogenderrautela ( talk) 15:52, 27 September 2022 (UTC) sock vote Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 20:52, 28 September 2022 (UTC) reply


I've opened one here [12] Oaktree b ( talk) 02:50, 28 September 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Lucky Bisht is not an actor; he was a former Indian spy and NSG commando. These unbiased, trustworthy sources are included below as proof that he has served his country very well.

Times Now [13]

Entrepreneur [14]

Free Press Journal [15]

Flipboard [16]

Indian Express [17]

~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santoshbeats ( talkcontribs) 15:59, 1 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Apart from that I also found [24] this piece of article that does mention him as a commando, Socks might be the reason if this page gets deleted but the fact about his notability for being NSG commando and being associated with Narendra Modi and later getting into entertainment Industry can't be denied so its a Soft Keep for me.
I cleaned up the article a bit and removed few unreliable sources. Suryabeej   talk 14:49, 3 October 2022 (UTC) reply
Being associated with someone famous doesn't make a person notable. Otherwise, we'd have an article on every celebrity's bodyguard, dogwalker and dry cleaner. Liz Read! Talk! 07:55, 4 October 2022 (UTC) reply
Well That does makes sense, But I don't think all the bodyguards, dogwalkers and dry cleaners tend to get a Book Written on em alongside the Biopic being announced by a Notable Author like Hussain Zaidi, as these sources reflects. see [25] this & [26] this. Suryabeej   talk 09:22, 4 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:20, 5 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I think some might criticize this relisting but right now, I'm seeing "No consensus" and I think an extra week might result in a more conclusive closure.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:02, 12 October 2022 (UTC) reply

    • Comment- An article is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone. when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. WP:SIGCOV. There are available existing sources that proves he qualifies. It a keep for me. I have done some copyediting on the article and removed PR or advertising contents and also removed some sources that are irrelevants aswell. Bernice2019 ( talk) 21:06, 12 October 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep- This is one of the controversial AFD discussions I’ve ever encountered, from my experience in AFD I think this article is worth encyclopedic not because of the present of the references provided, but seemingly it passes WP:NEXIST, I always use to support this kind of articles, I always suggest that this kind of article shouldn’t be left deleted because one way or the other it will be created in the near future, moreover, we have to consider the large number of references used in the article to support every single information provided, though someone said it is a pass mentioning, but as I see that the person is a public figure in India. An@ss_koko (speak up) 08:11, 19 October 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Bisht passes the WP:GNG as he received the award and he has significant coverage in media. Sources cited belong to NDTV India, Outlook, New Indian Express, Free Press Journal which are reliable, secondary and independent, fulfilling the WP:RS criteria.— Sankoswal ( talk) 11:39, 19 October 2022 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was 'Trainwreck' which turns into a no-consensus article retention. While some of the keep !votes are not policy based, a sock nomination should probably have been thrown out sooner. This can be revisited if an established editor finds merit, and I'd suggest seming an AfD from the very beginning. Star Mississippi 01:37, 20 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Lucky Bisht

Lucky Bisht (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

non notable film maker. Doesn't meet WP:NFILMMAKER ClickWiki ( talk) 11:17, 27 September 2022 (UTC) sock nomination MER-C 18:29, 5 October 2022 (UTC) reply


  • Keep: Lucky Bisht is a notable Indian personality and a book is being written on his life story by renowned crime writer, Hussain Zaidi. Eventually, the book will be made into a Bollywood movie. All articles has enough references which are independent and reliableIt has enough citations on trusted reliable, independent resources such as:

[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]

Jogenderrautela ( talk) 15:52, 27 September 2022 (UTC) sock vote Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 20:52, 28 September 2022 (UTC) reply


I've opened one here [12] Oaktree b ( talk) 02:50, 28 September 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Lucky Bisht is not an actor; he was a former Indian spy and NSG commando. These unbiased, trustworthy sources are included below as proof that he has served his country very well.

Times Now [13]

Entrepreneur [14]

Free Press Journal [15]

Flipboard [16]

Indian Express [17]

~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santoshbeats ( talkcontribs) 15:59, 1 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Apart from that I also found [24] this piece of article that does mention him as a commando, Socks might be the reason if this page gets deleted but the fact about his notability for being NSG commando and being associated with Narendra Modi and later getting into entertainment Industry can't be denied so its a Soft Keep for me.
I cleaned up the article a bit and removed few unreliable sources. Suryabeej   talk 14:49, 3 October 2022 (UTC) reply
Being associated with someone famous doesn't make a person notable. Otherwise, we'd have an article on every celebrity's bodyguard, dogwalker and dry cleaner. Liz Read! Talk! 07:55, 4 October 2022 (UTC) reply
Well That does makes sense, But I don't think all the bodyguards, dogwalkers and dry cleaners tend to get a Book Written on em alongside the Biopic being announced by a Notable Author like Hussain Zaidi, as these sources reflects. see [25] this & [26] this. Suryabeej   talk 09:22, 4 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:20, 5 October 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I think some might criticize this relisting but right now, I'm seeing "No consensus" and I think an extra week might result in a more conclusive closure.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:02, 12 October 2022 (UTC) reply

    • Comment- An article is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone. when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. WP:SIGCOV. There are available existing sources that proves he qualifies. It a keep for me. I have done some copyediting on the article and removed PR or advertising contents and also removed some sources that are irrelevants aswell. Bernice2019 ( talk) 21:06, 12 October 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep- This is one of the controversial AFD discussions I’ve ever encountered, from my experience in AFD I think this article is worth encyclopedic not because of the present of the references provided, but seemingly it passes WP:NEXIST, I always use to support this kind of articles, I always suggest that this kind of article shouldn’t be left deleted because one way or the other it will be created in the near future, moreover, we have to consider the large number of references used in the article to support every single information provided, though someone said it is a pass mentioning, but as I see that the person is a public figure in India. An@ss_koko (speak up) 08:11, 19 October 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Bisht passes the WP:GNG as he received the award and he has significant coverage in media. Sources cited belong to NDTV India, Outlook, New Indian Express, Free Press Journal which are reliable, secondary and independent, fulfilling the WP:RS criteria.— Sankoswal ( talk) 11:39, 19 October 2022 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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