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The result was redirect to List of British comedians#Stand-up comedians. If anybody wishes to expand this list, it is still available from the article history. Randykitty ( talk) 16:19, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
List of stand-up comedians from the United Kingdom
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This article is literally just a list there's no prose and therefore its a duplication of the corresponding category British stand-up comedians
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Lil-unique1 (
talk) — 10:10, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people, Entertainment, and United Kingdom. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:21, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete better handled as a category. LibStar ( talk) 10:29, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Should be expanded with further details to make it a more meaningful list. -- Michig ( talk) 14:04, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to
List_of_British_comedians#Stand-up_comedians as a duplicate.
Reywas92
Talk 15:16, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Didn't spot that at all! Good find. However, I'd still say delete and keep as a category. When the only think linking these individuals is their profession (and its not even sourced), how could you write a meaningful list article without writing about every single performer (and duplicating their parent article) or singling out some performers for prose and not others. Is that not just WP:INDISCRIMINATE and literally the function of a category? >> Lil-unique1 ( talk) — 20:15, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep the nomination is fundamentally flawed, standalone lists are entirely acceptable on Wikipedia, so "it's literally just a list" is not an argument for deleting something. The argument that the list duplicates the category is contradicted by WP:NOTDUP (a guideline): It is neither improper nor uncommon to simultaneously have a category, a list, and a navigation template that all cover the same topic. These systems of organizing information are considered to be complementary, not inappropriately duplicative. Furthermore, arguing that a category duplicates a list (or vice versa) at a deletion discussion is not a valid reason for deletion and should be avoided. No objection to a redirect, but it is a rather long list and splitting it out into a separate page isn't a bad idea. Hut 8.5 19:02, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of British comedians#Stand-up comedians as a duplicate of another list. Please note that, in contrast to the proposed target, List of stand-up comedians from the United Kingdom provides no context! gidonb ( talk) 02:04, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – filelakeshoe ( t / c) 🐱 11:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to the better-organized List of British comedians#Stand-up comedians Joyous! | Talk 16:24, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of British comedians#Stand-up comedians. If anybody wishes to expand this list, it is still available from the article history. Randykitty ( talk) 16:19, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
List of stand-up comedians from the United Kingdom
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- List of stand-up comedians from the United Kingdom ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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This article is literally just a list there's no prose and therefore its a duplication of the corresponding category British stand-up comedians
. >>
Lil-unique1 (
talk) — 10:10, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. >> Lil-unique1 ( talk) — 10:10, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people, Entertainment, and United Kingdom. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:21, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete better handled as a category. LibStar ( talk) 10:29, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Should be expanded with further details to make it a more meaningful list. -- Michig ( talk) 14:04, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to
List_of_British_comedians#Stand-up_comedians as a duplicate.
Reywas92
Talk 15:16, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Didn't spot that at all! Good find. However, I'd still say delete and keep as a category. When the only think linking these individuals is their profession (and its not even sourced), how could you write a meaningful list article without writing about every single performer (and duplicating their parent article) or singling out some performers for prose and not others. Is that not just WP:INDISCRIMINATE and literally the function of a category? >> Lil-unique1 ( talk) — 20:15, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep the nomination is fundamentally flawed, standalone lists are entirely acceptable on Wikipedia, so "it's literally just a list" is not an argument for deleting something. The argument that the list duplicates the category is contradicted by WP:NOTDUP (a guideline): It is neither improper nor uncommon to simultaneously have a category, a list, and a navigation template that all cover the same topic. These systems of organizing information are considered to be complementary, not inappropriately duplicative. Furthermore, arguing that a category duplicates a list (or vice versa) at a deletion discussion is not a valid reason for deletion and should be avoided. No objection to a redirect, but it is a rather long list and splitting it out into a separate page isn't a bad idea. Hut 8.5 19:02, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of British comedians#Stand-up comedians as a duplicate of another list. Please note that, in contrast to the proposed target, List of stand-up comedians from the United Kingdom provides no context! gidonb ( talk) 02:04, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – filelakeshoe ( t / c) 🐱 11:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to the better-organized List of British comedians#Stand-up comedians Joyous! | Talk 16:24, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.