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The result was merge to Parkway Drive. Compromise between keeping and deleting. (non-admin closure) J 947( c) ( m) 22:32, 4 October 2017 (UTC) reply

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Contested PROD. There is one source for the whole thing. Delete per WP:V, WP:NTOUR and other policies and guidelines. Merging is not an option per WP:V--we can't keep content without sources! Walter Görlitz ( talk) 16:59, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • You really think that no sources exist to verify these concert tours? postdlf ( talk) 17:47, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    • I don't think that no sources exit to verify the concert tours, I think that there is no "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The sources need to show notability in terms of artistic approach, financial success, relationship to audience, or other such terms. Sources that merely establish that a tour happened are not sufficient to demonstrate notability." That's from WP:NTOUR, not me. I'm sure we can find social media sources promoting the tours and possibly mentions of them. There are probably one-paragraph mentions that the bands are about to embark on the tour, are on the tour, or that the tour just ended in websites devoted to metal and hard rock music. If there's anything that can be sourced, that should be salvaged and included on the artist's own page—probably in prose form, not a table—but a stand-alone article is not needed at this point. What are your thoughts about sourcing? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 18:12, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
      • I was asking about verifiability, as you had raised that as an argument suggesting that no sources exist, but now you've made clear that you don't actually think that (and so have necessarily abandoned the claim that "merging is not an option per WP:V"), to instead rely entirely on notability as a basis for deletion. postdlf ( talk) 18:20, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Parkway Drive. Compromise between keeping and deleting. (non-admin closure) J 947( c) ( m) 22:32, 4 October 2017 (UTC) reply

List of Parkway Drive concert tours (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Contested PROD. There is one source for the whole thing. Delete per WP:V, WP:NTOUR and other policies and guidelines. Merging is not an option per WP:V--we can't keep content without sources! Walter Görlitz ( talk) 16:59, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:07, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:08, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
  • You really think that no sources exist to verify these concert tours? postdlf ( talk) 17:47, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    • I don't think that no sources exit to verify the concert tours, I think that there is no "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The sources need to show notability in terms of artistic approach, financial success, relationship to audience, or other such terms. Sources that merely establish that a tour happened are not sufficient to demonstrate notability." That's from WP:NTOUR, not me. I'm sure we can find social media sources promoting the tours and possibly mentions of them. There are probably one-paragraph mentions that the bands are about to embark on the tour, are on the tour, or that the tour just ended in websites devoted to metal and hard rock music. If there's anything that can be sourced, that should be salvaged and included on the artist's own page—probably in prose form, not a table—but a stand-alone article is not needed at this point. What are your thoughts about sourcing? Walter Görlitz ( talk) 18:12, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
      • I was asking about verifiability, as you had raised that as an argument suggesting that no sources exist, but now you've made clear that you don't actually think that (and so have necessarily abandoned the claim that "merging is not an option per WP:V"), to instead rely entirely on notability as a basis for deletion. postdlf ( talk) 18:20, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 18:00, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Α Guy into Books  § ( Message) -  13:00, 12 September 2017 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:51, 19 September 2017 (UTC) reply
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 02:29, 27 September 2017 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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