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The result was delete. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 02:05, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
List of Belgians
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This list is much too broad and conflicts with WP:SALAT. gidonb ( talk) 01:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and Belgium. gidonb ( talk) 01:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Belgium is a densely populated country of 11.7 million people. Category:Belgian people cannot be counted by PetScan, and a large share of the articles are not about Belgians, but there are likely tens of thousands articles about Belgians in Category:Belgian people. Category:Belgian scientists alone contains 1038 articles, more than enough to support a standalone list of Belgian scientists. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 02:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- I agree the scope of such list is too broad. But as WP:ATD, this list could be transformed in a list of lists following the example of Lists of Americans, by splitting into sub-lists. However, I tend towards Delete as I don't see the value in having lists of people for which we already have categories with thousands of entries, unless said lists have more stringent criteria than the categories themselves and are heavily curated. Otherwise we end up having patchwork lists of dubious worth. I am looking forward to reading the opinions of fellow editors. Broc ( talk) 04:12, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: The article is way too vague, as it includes people who were citizens of Belgium for at least some part of their lives (which could include a small portion of their lives), people who weren't Belgium at the time but were born where Belgium is now (which I don't think should qualify as "Belgian"), and even fictional characters whose citizenship isn't even know. There are way too many leaniant parameters for what qualifies as "Belgian". I think @ Broc's solution to turn the article into a list of lists could work, but I think deletion or making stricter qualifications for what "Belgian" means would be better suited. Mjks28 ( talk) 04:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. A list on its own is far too broad and unwieldy. Possible alternative is a list of lists in a more specific sense. Ajf773 ( talk) 10:42, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 02:05, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
List of Belgians
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- List of Belgians ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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This list is much too broad and conflicts with WP:SALAT. gidonb ( talk) 01:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and Belgium. gidonb ( talk) 01:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Belgium is a densely populated country of 11.7 million people. Category:Belgian people cannot be counted by PetScan, and a large share of the articles are not about Belgians, but there are likely tens of thousands articles about Belgians in Category:Belgian people. Category:Belgian scientists alone contains 1038 articles, more than enough to support a standalone list of Belgian scientists. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 02:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- I agree the scope of such list is too broad. But as WP:ATD, this list could be transformed in a list of lists following the example of Lists of Americans, by splitting into sub-lists. However, I tend towards Delete as I don't see the value in having lists of people for which we already have categories with thousands of entries, unless said lists have more stringent criteria than the categories themselves and are heavily curated. Otherwise we end up having patchwork lists of dubious worth. I am looking forward to reading the opinions of fellow editors. Broc ( talk) 04:12, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: The article is way too vague, as it includes people who were citizens of Belgium for at least some part of their lives (which could include a small portion of their lives), people who weren't Belgium at the time but were born where Belgium is now (which I don't think should qualify as "Belgian"), and even fictional characters whose citizenship isn't even know. There are way too many leaniant parameters for what qualifies as "Belgian". I think @ Broc's solution to turn the article into a list of lists could work, but I think deletion or making stricter qualifications for what "Belgian" means would be better suited. Mjks28 ( talk) 04:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. A list on its own is far too broad and unwieldy. Possible alternative is a list of lists in a more specific sense. Ajf773 ( talk) 10:42, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.