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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:00, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Lara Aklouk
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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 02:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, and Jordan. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 02:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - you don't get to the World Aquatics Championships without achieving an unusual level of talent and this should be taken into account.
Deb (
talk)
18:57, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- No, it should not, because such reasoning has been explicitly rejected by global consensus.
JoelleJay (
talk)
23:01, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Point us to that agreement, please.
Deb (
talk)
12:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- WP:NSPORTS2022 deprecated participation-based presumptions of SIGCOV for sports subguidelines, in addition to removing all presumption of notability. Therefore, merely participating at the World Aquatics Championships does not even indicate that SIGCOV exists, let alone presume notability. On top of that, all athletes must have at least one source of SIGCOV cited in their articles for any of the SSGs or SPORTBASIC presumptions to apply, so even medalling at WAC wouldn't be a valid predictor of further coverage here. JoelleJay ( talk) 19:51, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Point us to that agreement, please.
Deb (
talk)
12:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- No, it should not, because such reasoning has been explicitly rejected by global consensus.
JoelleJay (
talk)
23:01, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. I don’t believe that competing at the championships by itself is sufficient to Mt our notability standards. That would usher in many many hundreds of non notable individuals. Is someone thinks otherwise they can seek to revise our sports specific notability standard. 2603:7000:2143:8500:9CB2:BE71:9E3A:24FF ( talk) 07:14, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:34, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG due to lack of independent sources with in-depth coverage. Also fails WP:SPORTBASIC which states: "Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources." The first three sources are database sources. The fourth (the Jordanian Olympic Committee) is not an independent source and lacks depth (7 words on Aklouk). Cbl62 ( talk) 13:18, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Per lack of SIGCOV and my and others' arguments above. JoelleJay ( talk) 20:24, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:00, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Lara Aklouk
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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 02:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, and Jordan. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 02:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - you don't get to the World Aquatics Championships without achieving an unusual level of talent and this should be taken into account.
Deb (
talk)
18:57, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- No, it should not, because such reasoning has been explicitly rejected by global consensus.
JoelleJay (
talk)
23:01, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Point us to that agreement, please.
Deb (
talk)
12:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- WP:NSPORTS2022 deprecated participation-based presumptions of SIGCOV for sports subguidelines, in addition to removing all presumption of notability. Therefore, merely participating at the World Aquatics Championships does not even indicate that SIGCOV exists, let alone presume notability. On top of that, all athletes must have at least one source of SIGCOV cited in their articles for any of the SSGs or SPORTBASIC presumptions to apply, so even medalling at WAC wouldn't be a valid predictor of further coverage here. JoelleJay ( talk) 19:51, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Point us to that agreement, please.
Deb (
talk)
12:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- No, it should not, because such reasoning has been explicitly rejected by global consensus.
JoelleJay (
talk)
23:01, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. I don’t believe that competing at the championships by itself is sufficient to Mt our notability standards. That would usher in many many hundreds of non notable individuals. Is someone thinks otherwise they can seek to revise our sports specific notability standard. 2603:7000:2143:8500:9CB2:BE71:9E3A:24FF ( talk) 07:14, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:34, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG due to lack of independent sources with in-depth coverage. Also fails WP:SPORTBASIC which states: "Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources." The first three sources are database sources. The fourth (the Jordanian Olympic Committee) is not an independent source and lacks depth (7 words on Aklouk). Cbl62 ( talk) 13:18, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Per lack of SIGCOV and my and others' arguments above. JoelleJay ( talk) 20:24, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.