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The result was delete and redirect to Caitlyn Jenner. Courcelles ( talk) 17:19, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
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Kim Howe is the person who was killed in Caitlyn Jenner's car crash. She is famous for no other reason. She was a minor uncredited extra in two shows in the 60s - this does not meet our notability standards. She is known only because she was in a car crash with a famous person - there doesn't need to be a separate article here. B ( talk) 14:08, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. APerson ( talk!) 15:13, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Delete as a non-notable person. I also looked at WP:BLP1E, which may apply here. APerson ( talk!) 15:14, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Redirect to Caitlyn Jenner where they are noted as the victim. A separate article is not required per WP:BIO1E and WP:PSEUDO as every source used in the article is in context to the car crash.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:10, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Keep, subject of article is notable with many reliable references. Neptune's Trident ( talk) 18:44, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- But that's actually untrue as far as Wikipedia's guidelines are concerned; she's not notable outside of a single event (a car accident) and that event's relation to an undeniably notable individual (Caitlin Jenner), and all references used in the article were generated as a result of that single event and the notable individual involved. As I noted WP:BIO1E and WP:PSEUDO applies is this case. -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:06, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Delete for lack of independent notability, and for WP:BIO1E. Editor Neptune's Trident misses the point. It is not the volume of references, it is the quality and the substance of them. It is not just having reliable sources, it is having sources that show that she has received substantive coverage for more than just being a car crash victim. -- Bejnar ( talk) 21:53, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Delete and Redirect to Caitlyn_Jenner#Personal life. This article and the reporting are not about a notable persons life. Govindaharihari ( talk) 03:24, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Her career of being an extra in Elvis movies and as a body double is not notable. Only notable for car crash so should Redirect to Caitlyn Jenner#Fatal car crash. Naue7 ( talk) 23:44, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
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The result was delete and redirect to Caitlyn Jenner. Courcelles ( talk) 17:19, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
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Kim Howe is the person who was killed in Caitlyn Jenner's car crash. She is famous for no other reason. She was a minor uncredited extra in two shows in the 60s - this does not meet our notability standards. She is known only because she was in a car crash with a famous person - there doesn't need to be a separate article here. B ( talk) 14:08, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. APerson ( talk!) 15:13, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Delete as a non-notable person. I also looked at WP:BLP1E, which may apply here. APerson ( talk!) 15:14, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Redirect to Caitlyn Jenner where they are noted as the victim. A separate article is not required per WP:BIO1E and WP:PSEUDO as every source used in the article is in context to the car crash.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 17:10, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Keep, subject of article is notable with many reliable references. Neptune's Trident ( talk) 18:44, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- But that's actually untrue as far as Wikipedia's guidelines are concerned; she's not notable outside of a single event (a car accident) and that event's relation to an undeniably notable individual (Caitlin Jenner), and all references used in the article were generated as a result of that single event and the notable individual involved. As I noted WP:BIO1E and WP:PSEUDO applies is this case. -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 20:06, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Delete for lack of independent notability, and for WP:BIO1E. Editor Neptune's Trident misses the point. It is not the volume of references, it is the quality and the substance of them. It is not just having reliable sources, it is having sources that show that she has received substantive coverage for more than just being a car crash victim. -- Bejnar ( talk) 21:53, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Delete and Redirect to Caitlyn_Jenner#Personal life. This article and the reporting are not about a notable persons life. Govindaharihari ( talk) 03:24, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- Delete Her career of being an extra in Elvis movies and as a body double is not notable. Only notable for car crash so should Redirect to Caitlyn Jenner#Fatal car crash. Naue7 ( talk) 23:44, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 15:50, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 15:50, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
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