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The result was snow keep. This has been up just short of 7 days with no delete !votes thus I feel a snow keep is reasonable at this point. (non-admin closure) GSS 💬 05:12, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
Karmeeleyah McGill
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Fails GNG (only primary souces cover him) and especially WP:SUSTAINED; ProQuest search brought up no mentions in the last ten years. NFL rosters, when combined with the call-ups and injury replacements from training camp, are far too large for every player to be notable; this one is not. Mach61 ( talk) 05:10, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
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Newspapers.com shows zero mentions in the 21st century
Mach61 (
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05:16, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Since his career was in the 20th century, that is the more apt search parameter. SUSTAINED does not require coverage to cross multiple centuries. Cbl62 ( talk) 07:27, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, American football, Netherlands, Scotland, Florida, Indiana, and Ohio. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:32, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. A quick search of his full name (unsure if there was a nickname or short form) at Newspapers.com turns up SIGCOV in multiple sources. E.g., [1], [2], [3], [4]/ [5], [6]. Cbl62 ( talk) 06:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Passes WP:GNG with WP:SIGCOV from multiple publication over a period of several years, as can bee seen in the above sources and this from 1991. Alvaldi ( talk) 09:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Passes GNG with sources above. ~WikiOriginal-9~ ( talk) 13:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per GNG. And SUSTAINED does not require coverage of earlier subjects to extend into the 21st century. Rlendog ( talk) 14:12, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Plenty of coverage as already used in the article and in the few comments above this one. I wouldn't expect to find coverage for him now, he's well past his playing days. Notability isn't something that goes away as time passes, as far as wiki is concerned. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. You'd think it'd be best practice to talk with an AFC reviewer about why they accepted a submission (especially one they added sigcov sources to) before immediately going in and nominating that new article for deletion, but oh well. Anyway, this topic very clearly passes the general notability guideline. Mach61, be aware that the NFL is covered much more than you think. Basically anyone who plays even one game in modern times will have enough coverage for notability.
BeanieFan11 (
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16:08, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: While I agree it appears a proper BEFORE wasn't conducted here, there is no requirement that someone consult with the AFC reviewer before bringing an article to AfD.
Let'srun (
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22:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- I never said it was a requirement, only that it was a decent idea for subject areas one is unfamiliar with. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 01:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: While I agree it appears a proper BEFORE wasn't conducted here, there is no requirement that someone consult with the AFC reviewer before bringing an article to AfD.
Let'srun (
talk)
22:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per all above. Referencing is impressive. gidonb ( talk) 21:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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The result was snow keep. This has been up just short of 7 days with no delete !votes thus I feel a snow keep is reasonable at this point. (non-admin closure) GSS 💬 05:12, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
Karmeeleyah McGill
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Fails GNG (only primary souces cover him) and especially WP:SUSTAINED; ProQuest search brought up no mentions in the last ten years. NFL rosters, when combined with the call-ups and injury replacements from training camp, are far too large for every player to be notable; this one is not. Mach61 ( talk) 05:10, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
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Newspapers.com shows zero mentions in the 21st century
Mach61 (
talk)
05:16, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Since his career was in the 20th century, that is the more apt search parameter. SUSTAINED does not require coverage to cross multiple centuries. Cbl62 ( talk) 07:27, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, American football, Netherlands, Scotland, Florida, Indiana, and Ohio. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:32, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. A quick search of his full name (unsure if there was a nickname or short form) at Newspapers.com turns up SIGCOV in multiple sources. E.g., [1], [2], [3], [4]/ [5], [6]. Cbl62 ( talk) 06:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Passes WP:GNG with WP:SIGCOV from multiple publication over a period of several years, as can bee seen in the above sources and this from 1991. Alvaldi ( talk) 09:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Passes GNG with sources above. ~WikiOriginal-9~ ( talk) 13:33, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per GNG. And SUSTAINED does not require coverage of earlier subjects to extend into the 21st century. Rlendog ( talk) 14:12, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Plenty of coverage as already used in the article and in the few comments above this one. I wouldn't expect to find coverage for him now, he's well past his playing days. Notability isn't something that goes away as time passes, as far as wiki is concerned. Oaktree b ( talk) 15:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. You'd think it'd be best practice to talk with an AFC reviewer about why they accepted a submission (especially one they added sigcov sources to) before immediately going in and nominating that new article for deletion, but oh well. Anyway, this topic very clearly passes the general notability guideline. Mach61, be aware that the NFL is covered much more than you think. Basically anyone who plays even one game in modern times will have enough coverage for notability.
BeanieFan11 (
talk)
16:08, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: While I agree it appears a proper BEFORE wasn't conducted here, there is no requirement that someone consult with the AFC reviewer before bringing an article to AfD.
Let'srun (
talk)
22:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- I never said it was a requirement, only that it was a decent idea for subject areas one is unfamiliar with. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 01:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: While I agree it appears a proper BEFORE wasn't conducted here, there is no requirement that someone consult with the AFC reviewer before bringing an article to AfD.
Let'srun (
talk)
22:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per all above. Referencing is impressive. gidonb ( talk) 21:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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