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The result was redirect to Darwin–Wedgwood family. Anything worth merging is available from the article history. Randykitty ( talk) 21:04, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
John Wedgwood (1721–67)
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Not notable except for being the brother of Josiah Wedgwood Erp ( talk) 05:57, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. ~Ruyaba~ {talk} 09:11, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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- Merge per my suggestion on Thomas Wedgwood III below. Mccapra ( talk) 13:31, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:ATD and WP:PRESERVE. There are details of the various Wedgwoods in works such as Chaffers. Andrew D. ( talk) 16:19, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep as he is a notable historical person. _Srijanx22_ 10:49, 12 February 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srijanx22 ( talk • contribs)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 01:58, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 01:58, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete/Merge No indication of notability of than that inherited from his brother. Reywas92 Talk 05:12, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Agricolae ( talk) 22:01, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete or Merge to Darwin-Wedgwood family (or even better, as proposed in another AfD to a Wedgwood family article to be split off of Darwin-Wedgwood family). Agricolae ( talk) 22:08, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep as the other AfDs. Andy Dingley ( talk) 22:40, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Merge to a wider Wedgwood family to cover all the relatives of Josiah of dubious notability. Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:41, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete- Notability is not inherited, lack of sources.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 00:10, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - Josiah Wedgwood has been the subject of numerous biographies. An early biographer who wrote a two volume biography and a number of additional books is Eliza Meteyard. Based on her book, I think there is a good case the Josiah's brothers, Tom and John, are both suitably encyclopedic subjects for an article. Their lives and motivations are discussed in detail, and a good deal is known about them. You can see their entries in the book's index, here [1]. I think there is a much weaker case for Josiah's father. In this and other early, public domain biographies of Josiah, all that is written about his father is based on his will, his date of death, and generalizations about potters and inhabitants from Burslem during that period. I am !voting on all three AfDs (that of John Wedgwood (1721–67), that of Thomas Wedgwood IV and that of Thomas Wedgwood III) with this comment, as I think they are similar enough. I am voting weakly because I think the best proof of the subjects being encyclopedic would come in actually improving the pages (based on Meteyard or other sources) and I do not have time to do the improving myself. Smmurphy( Talk) 17:17, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to Josiah Wedgwood per WP:NOTINHERITED. He is not notable as WP:GNG requires multiple in-depth sources, and only one biography of his brother was provided above. I don't think that even that can be considered significant coverage, but a redirect would at least be supported by the one book. wumbolo ^^^ 20:42, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Darwin–Wedgwood family. Anything worth merging is available from the article history. Randykitty ( talk) 21:04, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
John Wedgwood (1721–67)
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Not notable except for being the brother of Josiah Wedgwood Erp ( talk) 05:57, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. ~Ruyaba~ {talk} 09:11, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. ~Ruyaba~ {talk} 09:11, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Merge per my suggestion on Thomas Wedgwood III below. Mccapra ( talk) 13:31, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:ATD and WP:PRESERVE. There are details of the various Wedgwoods in works such as Chaffers. Andrew D. ( talk) 16:19, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep as he is a notable historical person. _Srijanx22_ 10:49, 12 February 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srijanx22 ( talk • contribs)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 01:58, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 01:58, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete/Merge No indication of notability of than that inherited from his brother. Reywas92 Talk 05:12, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Agricolae ( talk) 22:01, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete or Merge to Darwin-Wedgwood family (or even better, as proposed in another AfD to a Wedgwood family article to be split off of Darwin-Wedgwood family). Agricolae ( talk) 22:08, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Keep as the other AfDs. Andy Dingley ( talk) 22:40, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Merge to a wider Wedgwood family to cover all the relatives of Josiah of dubious notability. Peterkingiron ( talk) 16:41, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete- Notability is not inherited, lack of sources.-- Rusf10 ( talk) 00:10, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - Josiah Wedgwood has been the subject of numerous biographies. An early biographer who wrote a two volume biography and a number of additional books is Eliza Meteyard. Based on her book, I think there is a good case the Josiah's brothers, Tom and John, are both suitably encyclopedic subjects for an article. Their lives and motivations are discussed in detail, and a good deal is known about them. You can see their entries in the book's index, here [1]. I think there is a much weaker case for Josiah's father. In this and other early, public domain biographies of Josiah, all that is written about his father is based on his will, his date of death, and generalizations about potters and inhabitants from Burslem during that period. I am !voting on all three AfDs (that of John Wedgwood (1721–67), that of Thomas Wedgwood IV and that of Thomas Wedgwood III) with this comment, as I think they are similar enough. I am voting weakly because I think the best proof of the subjects being encyclopedic would come in actually improving the pages (based on Meteyard or other sources) and I do not have time to do the improving myself. Smmurphy( Talk) 17:17, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to Josiah Wedgwood per WP:NOTINHERITED. He is not notable as WP:GNG requires multiple in-depth sources, and only one biography of his brother was provided above. I don't think that even that can be considered significant coverage, but a redirect would at least be supported by the one book. wumbolo ^^^ 20:42, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.