Jesse Sylvia
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No real indication of notability, only sources are routine 'match reports' on poker news sites and a stats database. Doesn't meet WP:NBIO. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:22, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Sportspeople, Games, and United States of America. UtherSRG (talk) 02:22, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I agree. Not really notable, even as a poker player, I would delete it. WhyIsThisSoHard575483838 ( talk) 02:39, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: California and Massachusetts. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note Three new sources have been made inclusion before this went AfD but after it went up as a proposed deletion. I now sincerly reach out to editors like UtherSRG with a question of what's more to add. Everything is in there; primary sources, local sources, stats database sources, routine match coverage sources, indepth match coverage sources. And even if someone would remark on there being only two scores you should keep in mind that one score is for $5,000,000 - and is a second place in the main event (world championship) - and the other is a win in a WPT Main Event (the largest set of tournaments next to the World Series of Poker) - both these scores alone should merit inclusion. PsychoticIncall ( talk) 13:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep It's a bit silly asking for sources for such obvious results (events) as a main event 2nd place and a world poker tour win when it's obvious these events have taken place (with the selective outcome). Like asking for more sources too validate Stanley Cup or Super Bowl. That said - the three sources needed for evaluation is right there (ref: 3;4;5;6).
PsychoticIncall (
talk) 15:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Per
WP:SIRS, the references must each be
independent,
reliable, and provide
significant coverage. None of them provide significant coverage. You have obviously failed to read and understand
WP:SIRS. -
UtherSRG
(talk) 19:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Could you be a bit more specific? The sources are specialized, but they do seem to be reliable, independent, and provide non-trivial coverage of the topic. Hobit ( talk) 22:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Significant coverage is the only one I say couldn't be debated; of the sources have looked at, they are all about Jesse Sylvia doing something, whether it be his performance at a competition or otherwise. ✶Qux yz ✶ 02:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Per
WP:SIRS, the references must each be
independent,
reliable, and provide
significant coverage. None of them provide significant coverage. You have obviously failed to read and understand
WP:SIRS. -
UtherSRG
(talk) 19:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Pokernews is fine for new about Poker (unless it's on a list of non-RSes?). The local "boy does well" article is reliable, independent, and provides significant coverage. I think we're okay on meeting WP:N. Hobit ( talk) 22:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Jesse Sylvia
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No real indication of notability, only sources are routine 'match reports' on poker news sites and a stats database. Doesn't meet WP:NBIO. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:22, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Sportspeople, Games, and United States of America. UtherSRG (talk) 02:22, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I agree. Not really notable, even as a poker player, I would delete it. WhyIsThisSoHard575483838 ( talk) 02:39, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: California and Massachusetts. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note Three new sources have been made inclusion before this went AfD but after it went up as a proposed deletion. I now sincerly reach out to editors like UtherSRG with a question of what's more to add. Everything is in there; primary sources, local sources, stats database sources, routine match coverage sources, indepth match coverage sources. And even if someone would remark on there being only two scores you should keep in mind that one score is for $5,000,000 - and is a second place in the main event (world championship) - and the other is a win in a WPT Main Event (the largest set of tournaments next to the World Series of Poker) - both these scores alone should merit inclusion. PsychoticIncall ( talk) 13:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep It's a bit silly asking for sources for such obvious results (events) as a main event 2nd place and a world poker tour win when it's obvious these events have taken place (with the selective outcome). Like asking for more sources too validate Stanley Cup or Super Bowl. That said - the three sources needed for evaluation is right there (ref: 3;4;5;6).
PsychoticIncall (
talk) 15:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Per
WP:SIRS, the references must each be
independent,
reliable, and provide
significant coverage. None of them provide significant coverage. You have obviously failed to read and understand
WP:SIRS. -
UtherSRG
(talk) 19:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Could you be a bit more specific? The sources are specialized, but they do seem to be reliable, independent, and provide non-trivial coverage of the topic. Hobit ( talk) 22:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Significant coverage is the only one I say couldn't be debated; of the sources have looked at, they are all about Jesse Sylvia doing something, whether it be his performance at a competition or otherwise. ✶Qux yz ✶ 02:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Per
WP:SIRS, the references must each be
independent,
reliable, and provide
significant coverage. None of them provide significant coverage. You have obviously failed to read and understand
WP:SIRS. -
UtherSRG
(talk) 19:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Pokernews is fine for new about Poker (unless it's on a list of non-RSes?). The local "boy does well" article is reliable, independent, and provides significant coverage. I think we're okay on meeting WP:N. Hobit ( talk) 22:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)