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The result was keep. Don't usually close on 2 (Ignoring the last vote!) !votes but since nomination the article's been heavily improved & sourced so no reason to delete now. ( non-admin closure) – Davey2010 Talk 01:19, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
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Unreferenced article about instrument maker with no claim to notability or importance. A7 was declined for some reason. Fails WP:GNG, WP:BIO. - McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 23:40, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
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- Comment: A Google Books snippet view of a museum publication on "Violin makers of Hungary" shows a comparative being made that some instrument "does not reach the quality of those of János Spiegel" and the book also has at least some coverage of the subject in his own right [1]. Not sufficient for biographical notability in itself but maybe indicative of a line for investigation. AllyD ( talk) 07:16, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95 Talk 12:13, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95 Talk 12:13, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Notable maker of bowed string instruments. Sources (books) added sufficient to pass GNG. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 22:33, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - it is clear from a Google search that the subject was a noted instrument maker. He lived before the Internet age so it is hardly surprising that online sources are hard to come by. We need to await hardcopy searches of Hungarian source material but, meanwhile, I see no benefit in deletion. Just Chilling ( talk) 00:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. Wikipedia has become too harsh and exclusive. Hike The Monicas ( talk) 16:58, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Don't usually close on 2 (Ignoring the last vote!) !votes but since nomination the article's been heavily improved & sourced so no reason to delete now. ( non-admin closure) – Davey2010 Talk 01:19, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- Janos Spiegel ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Unreferenced article about instrument maker with no claim to notability or importance. A7 was declined for some reason. Fails WP:GNG, WP:BIO. - McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 23:40, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. - McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 23:40, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. - McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 00:02, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hungary-related deletion discussions. - McMatter ( talk)/( contrib) 00:03, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: A Google Books snippet view of a museum publication on "Violin makers of Hungary" shows a comparative being made that some instrument "does not reach the quality of those of János Spiegel" and the book also has at least some coverage of the subject in his own right [1]. Not sufficient for biographical notability in itself but maybe indicative of a line for investigation. AllyD ( talk) 07:16, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95 Talk 12:13, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95 Talk 12:13, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Notable maker of bowed string instruments. Sources (books) added sufficient to pass GNG. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 22:33, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - it is clear from a Google search that the subject was a noted instrument maker. He lived before the Internet age so it is hardly surprising that online sources are hard to come by. We need to await hardcopy searches of Hungarian source material but, meanwhile, I see no benefit in deletion. Just Chilling ( talk) 00:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. Wikipedia has become too harsh and exclusive. Hike The Monicas ( talk) 16:58, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.