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The result was merge to Djibouti at the 2012 Summer Paralympics. Spartaz Humbug! 06:04, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
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Article merely repeats material in Djibouti at the 2012 Summer Paralympics. Eric Corbett 20:52, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- Merge or redirect into Djibouti at the 2012 Summer Paralympics. Not suitable for an independent biography, it'll only be about that one race forever. Courcelles ( talk) 21:00, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
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- Keep - added a paragraph on an award he won two years after the Paralympics, would be awkward in the
Djibouti at the 2012 Summer Paralympics article. (note: I expanded the article originally and had nominated it for GA, in case I need to disclose that).
Kees08
(Talk) 02:15, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- To expand, meets both WP:NSPORTS and WP:GNG by having multiple reliable sources, spanning multiple events. Clear notability is established. Kees08 (Talk) 21:07, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- Merge or redirect - He doesn't have much outside of the 2012 Paralympics, and it is unlikely he will be in another significant sporting event. Nova Crystallis (Talk) 04:00, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. As well as extensive coverage in 2012, and the award in 2014, he was mentioned in the press again in 2014 and 2016. He might be a lowly Paralympian, but he is as notable as Eric the Eel. Hoh2012 ( talk) 12:41, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per Kees08' comment. Even if it is unlikely for Hassan to be in another sporting event, there's significant coverage of his previous endeavors that wouldn't fit in the general article Djibouti at the 2012 Summer Paralympics. Nanophosis ( talk) 17:57, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- Merge Per WP:ATD (which, like WP:PRESERVE, and unlike anything quoted by the !keep votes, is grounded in policy). The sources fail to meet the fundamental guidelines—per WP:ANYBIO—regarding the depth or persistence of coverage to warrant a stand-alone article, particularly one which is merely duplication, and there's nothing undue about the weight given to it in the parent article. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia / cheap sh*t room 19:33, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Obscure doesn't mean non-notable. As per above follows notability guidelines (which granted aren't policy but still matter in this context). Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 20:22, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Merge (if possible): per the above mentioned ATD OR Delete. Non-notable individual that fails GNG A pseudo biographical --- single event ( BLP1E). "IF" an 80,000-strong stadium crowd cheered for the subject to win then there is notability for inclusion in the Djibouti at the 2012 Summer Paralympics article. It might be newsworthy if the miricle of what is listed in the article happened. The article refers to the subject as a "right arm paraplegic". This last word is indicative of someone suffering from paraplegia that affects the lower extremities. I suppose that a person suffering from paralysis of a single limb could be referred to as having monoplegia but I think that does not count when the limb is totally missing. In a picture of the event the one armed subject is shown running (not in a wheel chair) so there is confusion with this. Note: NSPORTS cannot be used in arguments for "Keep" concerning a BLP involving a single event. When a policy and guideline conflicts (until resolution): "if a guideline appears to conflict with a policy, editors may assume that the policy takes precedence.". If we want to keep an article against multiple policies and guidelines we are suppose to seek consensus for "ignoring the rules" meaning the article improves Wikipedia regardless of the rules. It is not a given that a mistaken (or false) rationale for "keep" automatically means to ignore the "rules". Come on people!! A "heartwarming story" also does not give a minor participant in one single major event a greenlight for an article because it made the news. Wikipedia is not the place for a collection of indiscriminate information.
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The result was merge to Djibouti at the 2012 Summer Paralympics. Spartaz Humbug! 06:04, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
- Houssein Omar Hassan ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Article merely repeats material in Djibouti at the 2012 Summer Paralympics. Eric Corbett 20:52, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- Merge or redirect into Djibouti at the 2012 Summer Paralympics. Not suitable for an independent biography, it'll only be about that one race forever. Courcelles ( talk) 21:00, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Courcelles ( talk) 21:53, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Courcelles ( talk) 21:54, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. Courcelles ( talk) 21:54, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - added a paragraph on an award he won two years after the Paralympics, would be awkward in the
Djibouti at the 2012 Summer Paralympics article. (note: I expanded the article originally and had nominated it for GA, in case I need to disclose that).
Kees08
(Talk) 02:15, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- To expand, meets both WP:NSPORTS and WP:GNG by having multiple reliable sources, spanning multiple events. Clear notability is established. Kees08 (Talk) 21:07, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- Merge or redirect - He doesn't have much outside of the 2012 Paralympics, and it is unlikely he will be in another significant sporting event. Nova Crystallis (Talk) 04:00, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. As well as extensive coverage in 2012, and the award in 2014, he was mentioned in the press again in 2014 and 2016. He might be a lowly Paralympian, but he is as notable as Eric the Eel. Hoh2012 ( talk) 12:41, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per Kees08' comment. Even if it is unlikely for Hassan to be in another sporting event, there's significant coverage of his previous endeavors that wouldn't fit in the general article Djibouti at the 2012 Summer Paralympics. Nanophosis ( talk) 17:57, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- Merge Per WP:ATD (which, like WP:PRESERVE, and unlike anything quoted by the !keep votes, is grounded in policy). The sources fail to meet the fundamental guidelines—per WP:ANYBIO—regarding the depth or persistence of coverage to warrant a stand-alone article, particularly one which is merely duplication, and there's nothing undue about the weight given to it in the parent article. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia / cheap sh*t room 19:33, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Obscure doesn't mean non-notable. As per above follows notability guidelines (which granted aren't policy but still matter in this context). Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 20:22, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Merge (if possible): per the above mentioned ATD OR Delete. Non-notable individual that fails GNG A pseudo biographical --- single event ( BLP1E). "IF" an 80,000-strong stadium crowd cheered for the subject to win then there is notability for inclusion in the Djibouti at the 2012 Summer Paralympics article. It might be newsworthy if the miricle of what is listed in the article happened. The article refers to the subject as a "right arm paraplegic". This last word is indicative of someone suffering from paraplegia that affects the lower extremities. I suppose that a person suffering from paralysis of a single limb could be referred to as having monoplegia but I think that does not count when the limb is totally missing. In a picture of the event the one armed subject is shown running (not in a wheel chair) so there is confusion with this. Note: NSPORTS cannot be used in arguments for "Keep" concerning a BLP involving a single event. When a policy and guideline conflicts (until resolution): "if a guideline appears to conflict with a policy, editors may assume that the policy takes precedence.". If we want to keep an article against multiple policies and guidelines we are suppose to seek consensus for "ignoring the rules" meaning the article improves Wikipedia regardless of the rules. It is not a given that a mistaken (or false) rationale for "keep" automatically means to ignore the "rules". Come on people!! A "heartwarming story" also does not give a minor participant in one single major event a greenlight for an article because it made the news. Wikipedia is not the place for a collection of indiscriminate information.
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.