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The result was no consensus. UPE in creation and a new editor just happens to nominate this article for deletion? Something smells rotten in Denmark. No objection to an established editor making a nomination if they feel it's appropriate. Star Mississippi 02:31, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
Herman Otten (actor)
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Non-notable speech coach. UPE was blocked a month ago when they started this page, User:Sabel Naveen/sandbox. Writing style hints that they are part of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hammad Chaudhry/Archive.
As an actor, he has acted in minor roles, short films, advertisements/commercials, clearly fails WP:NACTOR. The award he received is a run-of-the-mill award, so can't pass WP:ANYBIO on that basis. His book is self-published. Most of the sources are podcasts/interview which aren't secondary sources. Lunga Maphahla ( talk) 14:33, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Netherlands. Shellwood ( talk) 15:07, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. After web research per WP:NEXIST, I do not see how this would pass the WP:GNG. If someone else does, they are welcome to ping me. Difficulty was that the name is quite common. Thank you for a very worthwhile AfD nomination, Lunga Maphahla! gidonb ( talk) 01:57, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 00:15, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Can't comment on the notability of the sources, most of the roles seem minor. The paid-promotion/socking doesn't help. Oaktree b ( talk) 02:25, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I know article needs some more citations but the person has notability and meets Wikipedia criteria. I don't know anything about this "User:Sabel Naveen/sandbox" and how come "Lunga Maphahla" just created a new account and came to nominate this article? Lunga also made a few edits [1] on the article, and added Herman Otten's website as a speaking coach. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karemsingh ( talk • contribs) 18:08, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. UPE in creation and a new editor just happens to nominate this article for deletion? Something smells rotten in Denmark. No objection to an established editor making a nomination if they feel it's appropriate. Star Mississippi 02:31, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
Herman Otten (actor)
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Non-notable speech coach. UPE was blocked a month ago when they started this page, User:Sabel Naveen/sandbox. Writing style hints that they are part of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hammad Chaudhry/Archive.
As an actor, he has acted in minor roles, short films, advertisements/commercials, clearly fails WP:NACTOR. The award he received is a run-of-the-mill award, so can't pass WP:ANYBIO on that basis. His book is self-published. Most of the sources are podcasts/interview which aren't secondary sources. Lunga Maphahla ( talk) 14:33, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2022 May 21. — cyberbot I Talk to my owner:Online 14:54, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Netherlands. Shellwood ( talk) 15:07, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. After web research per WP:NEXIST, I do not see how this would pass the WP:GNG. If someone else does, they are welcome to ping me. Difficulty was that the name is quite common. Thank you for a very worthwhile AfD nomination, Lunga Maphahla! gidonb ( talk) 01:57, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 00:15, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Can't comment on the notability of the sources, most of the roles seem minor. The paid-promotion/socking doesn't help. Oaktree b ( talk) 02:25, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I know article needs some more citations but the person has notability and meets Wikipedia criteria. I don't know anything about this "User:Sabel Naveen/sandbox" and how come "Lunga Maphahla" just created a new account and came to nominate this article? Lunga also made a few edits [1] on the article, and added Herman Otten's website as a speaking coach. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karemsingh ( talk • contribs) 18:08, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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