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The result was delete. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい) 16:58, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Hayley Bolding
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Poorly-referenced promotional article. Non-notable person who founded non-notable organization. Hardly any information about her other than profiles such as LinkedIn, Facebook, and associated websites. She is supposedly "2013 Australian of the Year", but the on the list of Australian of the Year Award recipients, Ita Buttrose is the recipient. Must be two different awards, and Bolding's award is less-notable. Waddles 🗩 🖉 05:46, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Clarification - she was nominated for Young Australian of the Year (not Australian of the Year), and she didn't win. Instead, she was named Young Victorian of the Year (a lesser honour). By virtue of that win, she was automatically nominated for Young Australian of the Year. St★lwart 111 06:23, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Weak Delete - I don't think the award makes her notable, and making it sound like something it isn't is just dishonest. Of the three references that can remain (I trimmed the ones that were hard-links to things unrelated to her and the like) we have a couple of instances of local coverage (the most substantive from her home town) and an "also" paragraph in a publication from India (that I am not familiar with). There's something there, but not enough to get over the line. St★lwart 111 06:23, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Weak keep. This article doesn't—in its current state—satisfy WP:GNG. But, per other editors, there does appear to be something there. With further development, there may be a stronger indication of notability. I think that makes a reasonable case for WP: FLEXIBILITY. I'd support retaining the article for now. In the event that the article fails to develop a better indication of notability, it'd be a strong candidate for a future AfD. -- Ex Parte talk 06:45, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Sure, but we require the subject to be notable, not the article, and we require the subject to be notable before we create an article about them. If the subject isn't notable then we should not have created an article about them. If we did create an article about them when we shouldn't have, we should delete it until such time as they become notable. We should be flexible, sure, but I don't think we should reverse that process entirely. St★lwart 111 07:05, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 12:24, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 12:24, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete More or less doing her job. No indication of being notable. Fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep Talk 07:42, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Not enough to meet WP:SIGCOV or WP:ANYBIO. 4meter4 ( talk) 20:21, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
- Weak delete, most of the coverage is for WP:SINGLEEVENT and not a very impressive one at that, but there are more articles than this. None in depth though ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 14:18, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい) 16:58, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Hayley Bolding
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Poorly-referenced promotional article. Non-notable person who founded non-notable organization. Hardly any information about her other than profiles such as LinkedIn, Facebook, and associated websites. She is supposedly "2013 Australian of the Year", but the on the list of Australian of the Year Award recipients, Ita Buttrose is the recipient. Must be two different awards, and Bolding's award is less-notable. Waddles 🗩 🖉 05:46, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Waddles 🗩 🖉 05:46, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Waddles 🗩 🖉 05:46, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Waddles 🗩 🖉 05:46, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Clarification - she was nominated for Young Australian of the Year (not Australian of the Year), and she didn't win. Instead, she was named Young Victorian of the Year (a lesser honour). By virtue of that win, she was automatically nominated for Young Australian of the Year. St★lwart 111 06:23, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Weak Delete - I don't think the award makes her notable, and making it sound like something it isn't is just dishonest. Of the three references that can remain (I trimmed the ones that were hard-links to things unrelated to her and the like) we have a couple of instances of local coverage (the most substantive from her home town) and an "also" paragraph in a publication from India (that I am not familiar with). There's something there, but not enough to get over the line. St★lwart 111 06:23, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Weak keep. This article doesn't—in its current state—satisfy WP:GNG. But, per other editors, there does appear to be something there. With further development, there may be a stronger indication of notability. I think that makes a reasonable case for WP: FLEXIBILITY. I'd support retaining the article for now. In the event that the article fails to develop a better indication of notability, it'd be a strong candidate for a future AfD. -- Ex Parte talk 06:45, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Sure, but we require the subject to be notable, not the article, and we require the subject to be notable before we create an article about them. If the subject isn't notable then we should not have created an article about them. If we did create an article about them when we shouldn't have, we should delete it until such time as they become notable. We should be flexible, sure, but I don't think we should reverse that process entirely. St★lwart 111 07:05, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:45, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 12:24, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 12:24, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete More or less doing her job. No indication of being notable. Fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep Talk 07:42, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Not enough to meet WP:SIGCOV or WP:ANYBIO. 4meter4 ( talk) 20:21, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
- Weak delete, most of the coverage is for WP:SINGLEEVENT and not a very impressive one at that, but there are more articles than this. None in depth though ~ Shushugah (he/him • talk) 14:18, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.