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The result was delete. The arguments to keep are substantially stronger; nobody has rebutted the challenge to the sources provided, and meeting NSPORTS isn't enough. Vanamonde ( Talk) 00:41, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
Hassan Shoushtari
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Doesn't have enough coverage to meet WP:GNG. –– FormalDude (talk) 06:42, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. Likely to be Iranian sources out there but I can't find any. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:07, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - It's surprising to nominate the article for deletion without reading the clear Wikipedia guideline for the notability of football players, as given here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Notability
- Hassan Shoushtari played mulitiple times for professional football club
Sepahan in
Iran Football Pro League, and he clearly fulfils the 1st criteria of Football Players Notability.
Koorosh1234 (
talk|
contribs)
13:27, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- I guess you missed the notice on that page that says "
The player section of this notability guidance has been superseded by WP:Notability (sports), and is included below for information only as a record of the previous guidance that the Footy project came up with.
" - They have to meet WP:SPORTBASIC or WP:GNG. –– FormalDude (talk) 15:10, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- I guess you missed the notice on that page that says "
- Keep, significant coverage searching his name in Farsi, حسن شوشتری, such as
1,
2,
3, and there's more on his Persian Wiki page.--
Ortizesp (
talk)
20:55, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging @
GiantSnowman at their request for when sources are found. ––
FormalDude
(talk)
02:09, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping - I'm inclined to agree with JoelleJay that the sources are insufficient (based on Google Translate). Giant Snowman 12:07, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging @
GiantSnowman at their request for when sources are found. ––
FormalDude
(talk)
02:09, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:39, 19 October 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 08:54, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Sources offered above are a routine injury report, an "interview" entirely composed of his own quotes/"Shushtri said..." (no interviewer-contributed content whatsoever), and 15 search results containing "Hassan" and "Shushtri" somewhere in their articles. The ones actually on the subject are: bare quotes from him about his injury sourced to a "fan report", a couple pieces derived from the injury report press release, and at least four nearly-identical signing announcements "citing the public relations of Foulad Mobarakeh Sepahan Club". No SIGCOV, independent or otherwise. JoelleJay ( talk) 04:09, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - Per Ortizesp and Koorosh1234. Player with ongoing career who has played In fully pro Iran top flight. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 16:31, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. JoelleJay provides good analysis of the sources. They aren't significant enough to meet GNG. We have the usual non-policy based arguments for keep but nothing significant to demonstrate he's notable. MarchOfTheGreyhounds ( talk) 21:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. The arguments to keep are substantially stronger; nobody has rebutted the challenge to the sources provided, and meeting NSPORTS isn't enough. Vanamonde ( Talk) 00:41, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
Hassan Shoushtari
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Doesn't have enough coverage to meet WP:GNG. –– FormalDude (talk) 06:42, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Iran. –– FormalDude (talk) 06:42, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. –– FormalDude (talk) 06:43, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 07:20, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:58, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. Likely to be Iranian sources out there but I can't find any. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:07, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - It's surprising to nominate the article for deletion without reading the clear Wikipedia guideline for the notability of football players, as given here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Notability
- Hassan Shoushtari played mulitiple times for professional football club
Sepahan in
Iran Football Pro League, and he clearly fulfils the 1st criteria of Football Players Notability.
Koorosh1234 (
talk|
contribs)
13:27, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- I guess you missed the notice on that page that says "
The player section of this notability guidance has been superseded by WP:Notability (sports), and is included below for information only as a record of the previous guidance that the Footy project came up with.
" - They have to meet WP:SPORTBASIC or WP:GNG. –– FormalDude (talk) 15:10, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- I guess you missed the notice on that page that says "
- Keep, significant coverage searching his name in Farsi, حسن شوشتری, such as
1,
2,
3, and there's more on his Persian Wiki page.--
Ortizesp (
talk)
20:55, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging @
GiantSnowman at their request for when sources are found. ––
FormalDude
(talk)
02:09, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping - I'm inclined to agree with JoelleJay that the sources are insufficient (based on Google Translate). Giant Snowman 12:07, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging @
GiantSnowman at their request for when sources are found. ––
FormalDude
(talk)
02:09, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:39, 19 October 2022 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 08:54, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Sources offered above are a routine injury report, an "interview" entirely composed of his own quotes/"Shushtri said..." (no interviewer-contributed content whatsoever), and 15 search results containing "Hassan" and "Shushtri" somewhere in their articles. The ones actually on the subject are: bare quotes from him about his injury sourced to a "fan report", a couple pieces derived from the injury report press release, and at least four nearly-identical signing announcements "citing the public relations of Foulad Mobarakeh Sepahan Club". No SIGCOV, independent or otherwise. JoelleJay ( talk) 04:09, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - Per Ortizesp and Koorosh1234. Player with ongoing career who has played In fully pro Iran top flight. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 16:31, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. JoelleJay provides good analysis of the sources. They aren't significant enough to meet GNG. We have the usual non-policy based arguments for keep but nothing significant to demonstrate he's notable. MarchOfTheGreyhounds ( talk) 21:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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