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The result was delete. After sock !votes discounted there is consensus to delete
Philg88 ♦
talk 10:13, 11 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Fails
WP:GNG. No significant independent coverage. Of the three sources cited, #1 does not mention Guo Dongli at all, whereas #2 and #3 are from the same publication (Boxun) of questionable reliability. Even then, Boxun says Guo is just an "ordinary student".
Zanhe (
talk) 20:47, 29 August 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep. There seen no reason to focus on he is an "ordinary student" or not. And the "no significant independent coverage" does not hold; in fact, lots of articles in Wiki also lack on this problem and only with one or two references. See the following sample
Kong Lingxi in Wikipedia.
Historysalon (
talk) 06:08, 29 August 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep. The #1 source did mention the establishment of Youth Solidarity Temporary Student Union (临时青年团结学生联盟), which Guo Dongli is the convener of it. See the following sources
[1],
[2],
[3]. 07:12, 29 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
108.83.17.57 (
talk)
The #1 source is a blog article. Among the other three sources provided by 108.83.17.57, [1] does not mention Guo Dongli, and the other two are reprinted from Guo's own twitter.--
Huang Jinghai (
talk) 07:26, 7 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment:
Guo Dongli's Chinese name is 國冬禮, identical to the username of
User:國冬禮, whose edits are substantially similar to the new
User:Historysalon, who created
Guo Dongli; the new
User:AOIT2014, who de-prodded the article; and the IP 108.83.17.57, who voted keep above. It seems likely that this is a single individual's elaborate scheme at self-promotion. See
WP:Sockpuppet investigations/國冬禮. -
Zanhe (
talk) 05:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)reply
Speedy delete per
WP:A7. Nothing in the article seems to indicate the importance of this person. —Wasell(T) 18:08, 30 August 2014 (UTC)reply
Delete article makes no claim of notability. Why does this person matter? Generally we assume that the question is answered by independent reliable sources when they (not just one or two) chose to do in-depth reporting on the subject, but a little common sense applies, too. Anyway, this doesn't pass
WP:GNG cuz it doesn't have that level of reporting. If there was an interview with VOA, then perhaps it should be published by VOA, wouldn't that be logical. It seems especially suspicious that the anonymous VOA reporter with whom the subject is suposedly doing an interview in one of the cited refs is unable to use correct English. I'm with above commenters, this appears to be little more than a detailed hoax of some sort.
WP:A7 applies -
Metal lunchbox(
talk) 18:11, 1 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment the topic of this article may need more Wikipedia's
notability guideline for biographies. However, Wikipedia is a work in progress. Also, to define an article is an "hoay" need evidence, not with guess and suspicion. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
108.83.17.57 (
talk) 05:42, 3 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Philg88 ♦
talk 08:00, 5 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Consider keep actually, this article did clarify this person well, even can get expand justly. This person is relate to social activity, and in the new edition there had state very clear. Anyway, there are no hard evidence can overthrow the fact. In Google, Bing, or Yahoo, there are pretty much links can prove this either in Chinese or English. See
[4],
[5],
[6],
[7],
[8].comment added by
156.1.40.12 (
talk)
Note: 156.1.40.12 appears to be another sock of
User:國冬禮, whose named socks have been blocked, but still edits the article from IP's that geolocate to San Francisco. -
Zanhe (
talk) 07:12, 7 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep/improve This article is meet the
WP:GNG and
WP:BASIC since it has a big improve and more notable addition references to compare with the initial one. There has a selection of articles relate to Guo Dongli (references/significant independent coverage). — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
204.102.74.3 (
talk) 23:11, 9 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Yet another !vote from a San Francisco public IP. Why am I not surprised? -
Zanhe (
talk) 04:06, 10 September 2014 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. After sock !votes discounted there is consensus to delete
Philg88 ♦
talk 10:13, 11 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Fails
WP:GNG. No significant independent coverage. Of the three sources cited, #1 does not mention Guo Dongli at all, whereas #2 and #3 are from the same publication (Boxun) of questionable reliability. Even then, Boxun says Guo is just an "ordinary student".
Zanhe (
talk) 20:47, 29 August 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep. There seen no reason to focus on he is an "ordinary student" or not. And the "no significant independent coverage" does not hold; in fact, lots of articles in Wiki also lack on this problem and only with one or two references. See the following sample
Kong Lingxi in Wikipedia.
Historysalon (
talk) 06:08, 29 August 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep. The #1 source did mention the establishment of Youth Solidarity Temporary Student Union (临时青年团结学生联盟), which Guo Dongli is the convener of it. See the following sources
[1],
[2],
[3]. 07:12, 29 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
108.83.17.57 (
talk)
The #1 source is a blog article. Among the other three sources provided by 108.83.17.57, [1] does not mention Guo Dongli, and the other two are reprinted from Guo's own twitter.--
Huang Jinghai (
talk) 07:26, 7 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment:
Guo Dongli's Chinese name is 國冬禮, identical to the username of
User:國冬禮, whose edits are substantially similar to the new
User:Historysalon, who created
Guo Dongli; the new
User:AOIT2014, who de-prodded the article; and the IP 108.83.17.57, who voted keep above. It seems likely that this is a single individual's elaborate scheme at self-promotion. See
WP:Sockpuppet investigations/國冬禮. -
Zanhe (
talk) 05:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)reply
Speedy delete per
WP:A7. Nothing in the article seems to indicate the importance of this person. —Wasell(T) 18:08, 30 August 2014 (UTC)reply
Delete article makes no claim of notability. Why does this person matter? Generally we assume that the question is answered by independent reliable sources when they (not just one or two) chose to do in-depth reporting on the subject, but a little common sense applies, too. Anyway, this doesn't pass
WP:GNG cuz it doesn't have that level of reporting. If there was an interview with VOA, then perhaps it should be published by VOA, wouldn't that be logical. It seems especially suspicious that the anonymous VOA reporter with whom the subject is suposedly doing an interview in one of the cited refs is unable to use correct English. I'm with above commenters, this appears to be little more than a detailed hoax of some sort.
WP:A7 applies -
Metal lunchbox(
talk) 18:11, 1 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Comment the topic of this article may need more Wikipedia's
notability guideline for biographies. However, Wikipedia is a work in progress. Also, to define an article is an "hoay" need evidence, not with guess and suspicion. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
108.83.17.57 (
talk) 05:42, 3 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Philg88 ♦
talk 08:00, 5 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Consider keep actually, this article did clarify this person well, even can get expand justly. This person is relate to social activity, and in the new edition there had state very clear. Anyway, there are no hard evidence can overthrow the fact. In Google, Bing, or Yahoo, there are pretty much links can prove this either in Chinese or English. See
[4],
[5],
[6],
[7],
[8].comment added by
156.1.40.12 (
talk)
Note: 156.1.40.12 appears to be another sock of
User:國冬禮, whose named socks have been blocked, but still edits the article from IP's that geolocate to San Francisco. -
Zanhe (
talk) 07:12, 7 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Keep/improve This article is meet the
WP:GNG and
WP:BASIC since it has a big improve and more notable addition references to compare with the initial one. There has a selection of articles relate to Guo Dongli (references/significant independent coverage). — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
204.102.74.3 (
talk) 23:11, 9 September 2014 (UTC)reply
Yet another !vote from a San Francisco public IP. Why am I not surprised? -
Zanhe (
talk) 04:06, 10 September 2014 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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