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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 02:04, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
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This is an article about the stabbing of* a woman in a bar toilet. The incident is unfortunate of course, but the news is quite ordinary. It led to anti-misogyny protests that were - in my opinion - not enough to lend a notability credence to this news article. I propose that this article be deleted if deletion discussions concur. Xender Lourdes ( talk) 19:58, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Keep Some people may think "Gangnam murder case" is quite ordinary of course. But I think we must place these incident in
social context (
[1],
[2],
[3],
[4],
[5], etc). Thanks. --
Idh0854 (
talk)
06:24, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- This placement in social context should be written in the article itself, and should not be
original research. –
Finnusertop (
talk ⋅
contribs)
11:23, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- I know. But I don't mean that of course. See the news sources above and sources of the article in korean wikipedia. Thanks. --
Idh0854 (
talk)
12:49, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- Idh0854, as mentioned by Finnusertop, you need to mention details in the article, otherwise this will be considered just a standard news story. For your assistance, and despite being the nominator, I have expanded the article with a few news reports that talk about the incident (including the citation of The Economist you provided). I don't know whether this improves the article, but I've tried some. Thanks. Xender Lourdes ( talk) 02:11, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- I know. But I don't mean that of course. See the news sources above and sources of the article in korean wikipedia. Thanks. --
Idh0854 (
talk)
12:49, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- This placement in social context should be written in the article itself, and should not be
original research. –
Finnusertop (
talk ⋅
contribs)
11:23, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete or Move to Draft as it's too soon to tell whether this is an enduring event. Stuartyeates ( talk) 09:58, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisted following "delete" closure after input on my talk page. Sandstein 19:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Relisted following "delete" closure after input on my talk page. Sandstein 19:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - per Idh0854 reasoning. and sources presented. BabbaQ ( talk) 21:25, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. The murder received significant coverage, but yes, WP:NOTNEWS. However, it has also had impact on Korean society, triggering debates, discussions, activism, etc ( [6], [7]) and the discussion continues even now ( [8]). This seems to make it was Wikipedia:Notability (events)/ Wikipedia:Notability (crime). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:31, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 02:04, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
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This is an article about the stabbing of* a woman in a bar toilet. The incident is unfortunate of course, but the news is quite ordinary. It led to anti-misogyny protests that were - in my opinion - not enough to lend a notability credence to this news article. I propose that this article be deleted if deletion discussions concur. Xender Lourdes ( talk) 19:58, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Korea-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 20:30, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 20:30, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. Random86 ( talk) 20:55, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 21:32, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Some people may think "Gangnam murder case" is quite ordinary of course. But I think we must place these incident in
social context (
[1],
[2],
[3],
[4],
[5], etc). Thanks. --
Idh0854 (
talk)
06:24, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- This placement in social context should be written in the article itself, and should not be
original research. –
Finnusertop (
talk ⋅
contribs)
11:23, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- I know. But I don't mean that of course. See the news sources above and sources of the article in korean wikipedia. Thanks. --
Idh0854 (
talk)
12:49, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- Idh0854, as mentioned by Finnusertop, you need to mention details in the article, otherwise this will be considered just a standard news story. For your assistance, and despite being the nominator, I have expanded the article with a few news reports that talk about the incident (including the citation of The Economist you provided). I don't know whether this improves the article, but I've tried some. Thanks. Xender Lourdes ( talk) 02:11, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- I know. But I don't mean that of course. See the news sources above and sources of the article in korean wikipedia. Thanks. --
Idh0854 (
talk)
12:49, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- This placement in social context should be written in the article itself, and should not be
original research. –
Finnusertop (
talk ⋅
contribs)
11:23, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete or Move to Draft as it's too soon to tell whether this is an enduring event. Stuartyeates ( talk) 09:58, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisted following "delete" closure after input on my talk page. Sandstein 19:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Relisted following "delete" closure after input on my talk page. Sandstein 19:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 19:58, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - per Idh0854 reasoning. and sources presented. BabbaQ ( talk) 21:25, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. The murder received significant coverage, but yes, WP:NOTNEWS. However, it has also had impact on Korean society, triggering debates, discussions, activism, etc ( [6], [7]) and the discussion continues even now ( [8]). This seems to make it was Wikipedia:Notability (events)/ Wikipedia:Notability (crime). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:31, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.