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The result was no consensus. Whether to merge or to keep. Sandstein 15:32, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Gabjil

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  • May be "invented by the user", or may be an established new Korean usage; and notability query. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 06:33, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • @ Piotrus: I found this article requested to be moved from draft. I got a warning that the procedure to check drafts was backlogged "for two months", and the user requesting the move wrote that he could not wait that long, so I moved it and AfD'ed it, as the usual "queried move request" refuses if the requested move is from Draft:X to X. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 06:41, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • @ Anthony Appleyard: I am a bit confused about the rationale for this AfD (as it relates to the Draft handling, notability query is totally fine, except that it is easily addressed even outside the question of power harassment merger: article has plenty of sources, and here are some in English: [1], [2], [3], [4]). Could you point me to the relevant policy/guideline? Btw, as I noted, this was a Sandbox article that was supposed to have been moved to mainspace, it was instead moved without asking the author or instructor (it is an educational assignment project, btw) to the Draft space. I don't think it is common to move Sandboxes to Draft space, is it? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:00, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Merge to Power harassment. Sro23 ( talk) 06:43, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Behavioural science-related deletion discussions. Mahveotm ( talk) 07:21, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • @ Sro23: Interesting point. Is Gabjil and power harassment identical? The interwiki linking power harassment to ko:갑질 was made just today by User:Tiens (ping). The concepts are certainly closely related, but the article as written focuses on Korea only, so it is at the very least about power harassment in South Korea. Korean press (see links above in my reply to Anthony) commonly uses this term in English without translating it as power harassment. The term is also used in English-language academic works, through mostly by Korean scholars writing in English (which doesn't invalidate it, but still worth pointing out): [5], closed access, sorry, [6], [7], Chris Rowley; Marie dela Rama (3 May 2017). The Changing Face of Corruption in the Asia Pacific: Current Perspectives and Future Challenges. Elsevier Science. pp. 243–. ISBN  978-0-08-101230-7.. I did find at least one Korean scholarly paper which equates gabjil with power harassment in its short English abstract: [8] and another one [9] which defines it as "making use of one’s prominent position and power" so in the end I think you are right, gabjil is power harassment, however I think this article is too large for the merge and ph in SK is a notable topic in itself. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:00, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • I must say that I didn't notice that the new article 'Gabjil' exists as I've made the interwiki link of ko:갑질 to power harassment. These 2 terms are high related in terms of power harassment meanly, however the word 'Gabjil' is used under the circumstance where there is some business or other contract between 2 parties or persons and one who have high power or position shows any power harassment to the other side. this is somewhat different usage with ja:パワハラ which is focused on the circumstance of power harrasement between employer and employee or senior boss and mere member/clerk. In my opinion Gabjil is a specific result of whole power harassment concept, and in addition this term is a kind of new term in Korean society. It'd good if Gabjil could be explained in the korean specific section of power harassment, or splitted to separated article, in bother case 2 term should be linked. thanks. -- Tiens ( talk) 08:28, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. Mahveotm ( talk) 07:21, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep but consider renaming. Per my extensive replies with sources above I think this article is clearly notable, and too large to merge to power harassment, but it may be worthwile to consider renaming it to power harassment in South Korea. While the Korean term is used in English literature, we should consider WP:COMMONNAME. I am not however leaning towards said rename, as my searchers for phrases "power harassment in Korea" and "power harassment in South Korea" turned out exactly zero hits. When this topic is discussed, it seems that scholars (and press) use the Korean term (also note it is transliterated with p as 'gapjil', and sometimes with a hyphen - as well). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:00, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:58, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Merge to Power harassment. -- Aoinne ( talk) 15:59, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:41, 28 December 2017 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Whether to merge or to keep. Sandstein 15:32, 4 January 2018 (UTC) reply

Gabjil

Gabjil (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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  • May be "invented by the user", or may be an established new Korean usage; and notability query. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 06:33, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • @ Piotrus: I found this article requested to be moved from draft. I got a warning that the procedure to check drafts was backlogged "for two months", and the user requesting the move wrote that he could not wait that long, so I moved it and AfD'ed it, as the usual "queried move request" refuses if the requested move is from Draft:X to X. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 06:41, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • @ Anthony Appleyard: I am a bit confused about the rationale for this AfD (as it relates to the Draft handling, notability query is totally fine, except that it is easily addressed even outside the question of power harassment merger: article has plenty of sources, and here are some in English: [1], [2], [3], [4]). Could you point me to the relevant policy/guideline? Btw, as I noted, this was a Sandbox article that was supposed to have been moved to mainspace, it was instead moved without asking the author or instructor (it is an educational assignment project, btw) to the Draft space. I don't think it is common to move Sandboxes to Draft space, is it? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:00, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Merge to Power harassment. Sro23 ( talk) 06:43, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Behavioural science-related deletion discussions. Mahveotm ( talk) 07:21, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • @ Sro23: Interesting point. Is Gabjil and power harassment identical? The interwiki linking power harassment to ko:갑질 was made just today by User:Tiens (ping). The concepts are certainly closely related, but the article as written focuses on Korea only, so it is at the very least about power harassment in South Korea. Korean press (see links above in my reply to Anthony) commonly uses this term in English without translating it as power harassment. The term is also used in English-language academic works, through mostly by Korean scholars writing in English (which doesn't invalidate it, but still worth pointing out): [5], closed access, sorry, [6], [7], Chris Rowley; Marie dela Rama (3 May 2017). The Changing Face of Corruption in the Asia Pacific: Current Perspectives and Future Challenges. Elsevier Science. pp. 243–. ISBN  978-0-08-101230-7.. I did find at least one Korean scholarly paper which equates gabjil with power harassment in its short English abstract: [8] and another one [9] which defines it as "making use of one’s prominent position and power" so in the end I think you are right, gabjil is power harassment, however I think this article is too large for the merge and ph in SK is a notable topic in itself. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:00, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
    • I must say that I didn't notice that the new article 'Gabjil' exists as I've made the interwiki link of ko:갑질 to power harassment. These 2 terms are high related in terms of power harassment meanly, however the word 'Gabjil' is used under the circumstance where there is some business or other contract between 2 parties or persons and one who have high power or position shows any power harassment to the other side. this is somewhat different usage with ja:パワハラ which is focused on the circumstance of power harrasement between employer and employee or senior boss and mere member/clerk. In my opinion Gabjil is a specific result of whole power harassment concept, and in addition this term is a kind of new term in Korean society. It'd good if Gabjil could be explained in the korean specific section of power harassment, or splitted to separated article, in bother case 2 term should be linked. thanks. -- Tiens ( talk) 08:28, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. Mahveotm ( talk) 07:21, 14 December 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep but consider renaming. Per my extensive replies with sources above I think this article is clearly notable, and too large to merge to power harassment, but it may be worthwile to consider renaming it to power harassment in South Korea. While the Korean term is used in English literature, we should consider WP:COMMONNAME. I am not however leaning towards said rename, as my searchers for phrases "power harassment in Korea" and "power harassment in South Korea" turned out exactly zero hits. When this topic is discussed, it seems that scholars (and press) use the Korean term (also note it is transliterated with p as 'gapjil', and sometimes with a hyphen - as well). -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:00, 15 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:58, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Merge to Power harassment. -- Aoinne ( talk) 15:59, 21 December 2017 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:41, 28 December 2017 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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