The result was redirect to Bruce Lee#Fight history. Rough consensus is that the topic is not encyclopedic enough or notable enough for its own article. Most of the article's suitable content has already been merged to Bruce Lee. Regards, Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 12:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC) reply
The topic is not notable, since Bruce Lee who was an actor throughout his career and not a professional fighter, did not participate in official tournaments and thus, unlike real sportsmen, lacks an official fighting record which could be referred to on the basis of solid sources. Combing through the entry reveals the unsubstantiality of most of its contents:
Most of us are fascinated by the movie icon Bruce Lee, including me, but the whole entry is a thinly disguised hero story and as such unencyclopedic to its core. The two episodes which had indeed an impact of Lee's life and career, his teen brawls in Hongkong which led to his remigration to the US, and his unwillingness to stop teaching non-Chinese in his Oakland dojo, should be transferred to Bruce Lee, the rest discarded. Gun Powder Ma ( talk) 14:57, 25 February 2010 (UTC) reply
@ Gun Powder MA: To say he was (only) an actor through and through would be the same as if you say Arnold Schwarzenegger was an actor through and through, never a bodybuilder or politicain. If the name of this page would be "Fight RECORD of BL", i would totally agree with you, because he wasn t a so called "professional fighter". But what is a professional fighter? A sport figther or tournament player. But c mon, fighting and martial arts is much more than tournaments or sport. When people claim "Bruce Lee was not a tournament fighter", they re right! But to say he was not a (street) fighter is not true. If we start to relate ANY comments about fighting to sport records, we have also argue about the claim that the Samurai Miyamoto Musashi was involved in over 60 duels during his lifetime, and never lost one. No "official" source exist for his fights, but it s no reason to delete this claims.
Other example: Go to the wiki site of Wong Shun Leung, who was the teacher of Lee. You re gonna find a statement like "Wong reportedly won at least 60, and perhaps over 100, street fights against martial artists of various styles". Should we delete this as well, just because Wong was not a "professional fighter" too?
Both should be mentioned and taken serious. It s not fair just to consider professional fighters and ignore street fighters.
Finally i hope there come more people and talk with us about it. Because i don t think 1 or 2 people should judge about remove a whole site. Best Regards 188.97.227.220 ( talk) 20:03, 25 February 2010 (UTC) CB ( talk) 21:04, 25 February 2010 (CET) reply
Keep informative article that might interest many readers. Str8cash ( talk) 23:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC) reply
Any claim has his source, exactly as it should be on Wikipedia. If you have a problem with it, Gun Powder Ma, ignore it. Like i said before, especially the section "Qutes about MA and fighting skills" is WELL documented. If you say it isn t, you consider guys like Manny Pacquiao, Joe Lewis, Ed Parker Jr., Dan Inosanto etc. as liars. Pls. do some research before you judge about it. Take all kinds of documentaries, books, and any source listed as reference, and then say again it is not objective. This page was done around 6-7 months ago, and to this day no one said it should be removed (deleted) because of "unobjectivity" or what s however. Why? Think about it... CB ( talk) 01:30, 26 February 2010 (CET). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.97.227.220 ( talk)
One last thing: Please still fair and don´t try to maniuplate! Some individual changed my words above, put in some statements i didn t wrote, so i had to fix it. It s not my decision to keep or delete, but it s also not encyclopedic to change words of other people. I guess anyone will agree. Best Regards ;-) CB ( talk) 11:56, 26 February 2010 (CET) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.97.227.220 ( talk)
I've redirected as I think it is more appropriate to condense this in the main article. I only split it because it degraded the main article. An AFD is unnecessary and a waste of time. The article amounts to little more than dubious coverage of his teen brawls. I've now cleaned this up and reinserted it into the main article without bloating it You are free to close this AFD. ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 11:26, 26 February 2010 (UTC) reply
Perhaps in future you'd be better discussing things with the creator on the article talk page first and proposing to merge before going to AFD... I've redirected the Physical article too. I've condensed them and cleane dthem up a little, the article is better than preivously. I only split into this article to remove excess from the main article. In thinking about it the best thing would have been to clean it up on the spot like I did earlier instead of splitting into more messy articles... This article probably fails WP:Athlete anyway... ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 13:41, 26 February 2010 (UTC) reply
You must have a lot of time to waste... ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 17:24, 26 February 2010 (UTC) reply
The result was redirect to Bruce Lee#Fight history. Rough consensus is that the topic is not encyclopedic enough or notable enough for its own article. Most of the article's suitable content has already been merged to Bruce Lee. Regards, Arbitrarily0 ( talk) 12:24, 14 March 2010 (UTC) reply
The topic is not notable, since Bruce Lee who was an actor throughout his career and not a professional fighter, did not participate in official tournaments and thus, unlike real sportsmen, lacks an official fighting record which could be referred to on the basis of solid sources. Combing through the entry reveals the unsubstantiality of most of its contents:
Most of us are fascinated by the movie icon Bruce Lee, including me, but the whole entry is a thinly disguised hero story and as such unencyclopedic to its core. The two episodes which had indeed an impact of Lee's life and career, his teen brawls in Hongkong which led to his remigration to the US, and his unwillingness to stop teaching non-Chinese in his Oakland dojo, should be transferred to Bruce Lee, the rest discarded. Gun Powder Ma ( talk) 14:57, 25 February 2010 (UTC) reply
@ Gun Powder MA: To say he was (only) an actor through and through would be the same as if you say Arnold Schwarzenegger was an actor through and through, never a bodybuilder or politicain. If the name of this page would be "Fight RECORD of BL", i would totally agree with you, because he wasn t a so called "professional fighter". But what is a professional fighter? A sport figther or tournament player. But c mon, fighting and martial arts is much more than tournaments or sport. When people claim "Bruce Lee was not a tournament fighter", they re right! But to say he was not a (street) fighter is not true. If we start to relate ANY comments about fighting to sport records, we have also argue about the claim that the Samurai Miyamoto Musashi was involved in over 60 duels during his lifetime, and never lost one. No "official" source exist for his fights, but it s no reason to delete this claims.
Other example: Go to the wiki site of Wong Shun Leung, who was the teacher of Lee. You re gonna find a statement like "Wong reportedly won at least 60, and perhaps over 100, street fights against martial artists of various styles". Should we delete this as well, just because Wong was not a "professional fighter" too?
Both should be mentioned and taken serious. It s not fair just to consider professional fighters and ignore street fighters.
Finally i hope there come more people and talk with us about it. Because i don t think 1 or 2 people should judge about remove a whole site. Best Regards 188.97.227.220 ( talk) 20:03, 25 February 2010 (UTC) CB ( talk) 21:04, 25 February 2010 (CET) reply
Keep informative article that might interest many readers. Str8cash ( talk) 23:24, 25 February 2010 (UTC) reply
Any claim has his source, exactly as it should be on Wikipedia. If you have a problem with it, Gun Powder Ma, ignore it. Like i said before, especially the section "Qutes about MA and fighting skills" is WELL documented. If you say it isn t, you consider guys like Manny Pacquiao, Joe Lewis, Ed Parker Jr., Dan Inosanto etc. as liars. Pls. do some research before you judge about it. Take all kinds of documentaries, books, and any source listed as reference, and then say again it is not objective. This page was done around 6-7 months ago, and to this day no one said it should be removed (deleted) because of "unobjectivity" or what s however. Why? Think about it... CB ( talk) 01:30, 26 February 2010 (CET). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.97.227.220 ( talk)
One last thing: Please still fair and don´t try to maniuplate! Some individual changed my words above, put in some statements i didn t wrote, so i had to fix it. It s not my decision to keep or delete, but it s also not encyclopedic to change words of other people. I guess anyone will agree. Best Regards ;-) CB ( talk) 11:56, 26 February 2010 (CET) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.97.227.220 ( talk)
I've redirected as I think it is more appropriate to condense this in the main article. I only split it because it degraded the main article. An AFD is unnecessary and a waste of time. The article amounts to little more than dubious coverage of his teen brawls. I've now cleaned this up and reinserted it into the main article without bloating it You are free to close this AFD. ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 11:26, 26 February 2010 (UTC) reply
Perhaps in future you'd be better discussing things with the creator on the article talk page first and proposing to merge before going to AFD... I've redirected the Physical article too. I've condensed them and cleane dthem up a little, the article is better than preivously. I only split into this article to remove excess from the main article. In thinking about it the best thing would have been to clean it up on the spot like I did earlier instead of splitting into more messy articles... This article probably fails WP:Athlete anyway... ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 13:41, 26 February 2010 (UTC) reply
You must have a lot of time to waste... ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 17:24, 26 February 2010 (UTC) reply