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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 20:03, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Fallen Legion: Flames of Rebellion
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Does not meet WP:NVG by any means whatsoever. All sources are aggregations/lists. Spretznaz ( talk) 10:21, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Wow. A game that does not meet NVG? That's so rare it could make it notable. I am sure that if we search a bit more we will find some obscure game review site that has a copy of a press release or such that will make it pass VGN with flying colors. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:33, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
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- Please, take your soapbox elsewhere, this isn’t the place for this sort of griping. Sergecross73 msg me 12:16, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep, though probably rename to the more vague Fallen Legion instead, because there’s a few different variations and re-releases with it now. Article is in rough shape, but the sourcing is out there. Looks to be a failure of WP:BEFORE. Sources below are considered reliable per WP:VG/S.
- https://www.rpgsite.net/review/5876-fallen-legion-sins-of-an-empire-review
- http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/review/47283/fallen-legion-rise-to-glory-switch-review
- https://www.gamezone.com/reviews/fallen-legion-is-a-fast-paced-good-time-that-needs-just-a-little-push/
- https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/07/18/fallen-legion-vita-review-flames-of-rebellion/#/slide/1
- https://gematsu.com/tag/yummyyummytummy - 10+ stand-alone articles from Gematsu
- https://www.siliconera.com/tag/fallen-legion/ - 10+ stand-alone articles Sergecross73 msg me 13:12, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - Is a legit game and I'm not the greatest and constructing a perfect article, sorry. But hopefully other people may fill in the holes in future since it doesn't should stay since It's legit with reliable sources out there. Thursby16 ( talk)
- Keep per Sergecross73, Thursby16. Mosaicberry ( talk) 22:59, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Sergecross73 I think I have to clarify the mess about the title of the game. Firstly, this game got separate two releases: one on PSVita and PS4 (Fallen Legion: Sins of an Empire and Fallen Legion: Flames of Rebellion, whereas this AfD and article is about is the Vita one) [1] Then, in the same year, these 2 games combined got released on PC as Fallen Legion+ [2] and then on Switch as Fallen Legion: Rise to Glory [3]. Certainly a notable game franchise per WP:GNG in multiple significant coverage in reliable sources where I also found [4] and [5] but it needs to move to Fallen Legion at the very least, as the PSVita version is it's least notable iteration. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 09:00, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep as notability has been established by coverage in reliable sources, and there is clearly sufficient material available to expand the article substantially. Issues with article title, organization of contents, and addition of sources can be addressed outside AfD. Bakazaka ( talk) 04:30, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 20:03, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Fallen Legion: Flames of Rebellion
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Does not meet WP:NVG by any means whatsoever. All sources are aggregations/lists. Spretznaz ( talk) 10:21, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Wow. A game that does not meet NVG? That's so rare it could make it notable. I am sure that if we search a bit more we will find some obscure game review site that has a copy of a press release or such that will make it pass VGN with flying colors. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:33, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
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10:59, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Please, take your soapbox elsewhere, this isn’t the place for this sort of griping. Sergecross73 msg me 12:16, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep, though probably rename to the more vague Fallen Legion instead, because there’s a few different variations and re-releases with it now. Article is in rough shape, but the sourcing is out there. Looks to be a failure of WP:BEFORE. Sources below are considered reliable per WP:VG/S.
- https://www.rpgsite.net/review/5876-fallen-legion-sins-of-an-empire-review
- http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/review/47283/fallen-legion-rise-to-glory-switch-review
- https://www.gamezone.com/reviews/fallen-legion-is-a-fast-paced-good-time-that-needs-just-a-little-push/
- https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/07/18/fallen-legion-vita-review-flames-of-rebellion/#/slide/1
- https://gematsu.com/tag/yummyyummytummy - 10+ stand-alone articles from Gematsu
- https://www.siliconera.com/tag/fallen-legion/ - 10+ stand-alone articles Sergecross73 msg me 13:12, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - Is a legit game and I'm not the greatest and constructing a perfect article, sorry. But hopefully other people may fill in the holes in future since it doesn't should stay since It's legit with reliable sources out there. Thursby16 ( talk)
- Keep per Sergecross73, Thursby16. Mosaicberry ( talk) 22:59, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Sergecross73 I think I have to clarify the mess about the title of the game. Firstly, this game got separate two releases: one on PSVita and PS4 (Fallen Legion: Sins of an Empire and Fallen Legion: Flames of Rebellion, whereas this AfD and article is about is the Vita one) [1] Then, in the same year, these 2 games combined got released on PC as Fallen Legion+ [2] and then on Switch as Fallen Legion: Rise to Glory [3]. Certainly a notable game franchise per WP:GNG in multiple significant coverage in reliable sources where I also found [4] and [5] but it needs to move to Fallen Legion at the very least, as the PSVita version is it's least notable iteration. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 09:00, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep as notability has been established by coverage in reliable sources, and there is clearly sufficient material available to expand the article substantially. Issues with article title, organization of contents, and addition of sources can be addressed outside AfD. Bakazaka ( talk) 04:30, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
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