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The result was keep . Star Mississippi 13:45, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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Was draftified in hopes of improvement. 2 primary sources were added and it was moved back to mainspace. Searches did not turn up any in-depth coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 09:40, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Football, and Japan. Shellwood ( talk) 12:48, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Keep. We can keep it in draftspace until more sources show up - she also has caps in the highest league of Japan which helps towards her case. User:RossEvans18 ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:17, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:00, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Per above. Young player with ongoing top flight pro career in league that gets coverage. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 20:12, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Fails BLP, GNG, BIO. There are no IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. BEFORE showed nothing that meets SIGCOV. Source eval:
- Interview, primary, not IS for notability >> 1. "【サンフレッチェ広島レジーナ全選手名鑑WEB版】呉屋絵理子選手／ケガからの復帰。コンディションをもっと、もっと。". targma.jp.
- Database generated profile >> 2. ^ "Eriko Goya Sanfreece Hiroshima Regina Profile". sanfreece.co.jp.
- Database stats >> 3. ^ "Tokyo Verdy Beleza vs Sanfreece Hiroshima Regina - 4th December 2022 - Soccerway". int.soccerway.com.
- Name mentioned in list. Fails SIGCOV >> 4. ^ "呉屋絵理子／不屈の彼女。". targma.jp.
- WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources"'; BLPs need IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability per well known core policy ( WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines ( WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV). // Timothy :: talk 05:55, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:32, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Soft Keep - played in major league and can be considered a keep but better if it is improved in the draft space. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxxyOswald ( talk • contribs) 20:06, 21 April 2023 (UTC) — MaxxyOswald ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. I was unable to find any significant coverage during a search. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, we don't create articles on young athletes with an ongoing careers because there might be significant sources sometimes in the future, we create articles when there are already significant sources about the athlete. And while she might play in a notable league, notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. All things that certain editors know very well but routenly try to circumvent. Alvaldi ( talk) 10:13, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Redirect to footballer Hiroto Goya as an alternative to deletion, per WP:ATD.Have added information about Eriko Goya to her brother's page, with citation. She has one newspaper article to date counting toward notability – although the top part of the article is based on a Q&A interview, there is one dense paragraph of biographical content at the end (plus a few editor's notes throughout).Once more coverage appears about her, the redirect can easily be converted back into a standalone article, because the edit history will still contain a copy of the article as it currently stands.(The Japanese Wikipedia article about her seems to cite a lot of press releases, plus her own blog, in addition to the Sanfrecce magazine interview at targma.jp, which I agree is a primary source.) Cielquiparle ( talk) 13:24, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Changing !vote to Weak keep in light of additional sources found per the IP editor below, which I've added to the article. The Okinawa Times profile article (accessible for free if you register) is actually the strongest of the lot. Combined with the Chūgoku Shimbun article, it's enough to establish notability per WP:BASIC, and it's a bonus that it's focused coverage in two regional newspapers in different parts of the country. (It's a "weak" keep because it was a borderline case; it still feels a bit early in her career as she only recently made her top-flight league debut, and it would be nice if there were one more piece of coverage...but this often happens, also with young male footballers.) Cielquiparle ( talk) 22:43, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- @ GiantSnowman:, see this above. Young player with ongoing top flight pro career in league that gets coverage. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 16:14, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment to note sources not in the article, including a paywalled Okinawa Times profile in 2021, trivial match mentions in Hiroshima Sport magazine ( 2, noting her WE debut), and a radio interview on Hiroshima FM. Nothing that solves GNG; while the paywalled article looks significant and biographical, I can't bypass to confirm. - 71.34.68.140 ( talk) 21:02, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep with articles provided by IP above. Nfitz ( talk) 05:56, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Due to Okinawa Times article and other supporting coverage. MrsSnoozyTurtle 09:14, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was keep . Star Mississippi 13:45, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
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Was draftified in hopes of improvement. 2 primary sources were added and it was moved back to mainspace. Searches did not turn up any in-depth coverage. Fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 09:40, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Football, and Japan. Shellwood ( talk) 12:48, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
Keep. We can keep it in draftspace until more sources show up - she also has caps in the highest league of Japan which helps towards her case. User:RossEvans18 ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:17, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:00, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - Per above. Young player with ongoing top flight pro career in league that gets coverage. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 20:12, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Fails BLP, GNG, BIO. There are no IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. BEFORE showed nothing that meets SIGCOV. Source eval:
- Interview, primary, not IS for notability >> 1. "【サンフレッチェ広島レジーナ全選手名鑑WEB版】呉屋絵理子選手／ケガからの復帰。コンディションをもっと、もっと。". targma.jp.
- Database generated profile >> 2. ^ "Eriko Goya Sanfreece Hiroshima Regina Profile". sanfreece.co.jp.
- Database stats >> 3. ^ "Tokyo Verdy Beleza vs Sanfreece Hiroshima Regina - 4th December 2022 - Soccerway". int.soccerway.com.
- Name mentioned in list. Fails SIGCOV >> 4. ^ "呉屋絵理子／不屈の彼女。". targma.jp.
- WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources"'; BLPs need IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability per well known core policy ( WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines ( WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV). // Timothy :: talk 05:55, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:32, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
- Soft Keep - played in major league and can be considered a keep but better if it is improved in the draft space. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxxyOswald ( talk • contribs) 20:06, 21 April 2023 (UTC) — MaxxyOswald ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. I was unable to find any significant coverage during a search. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, we don't create articles on young athletes with an ongoing careers because there might be significant sources sometimes in the future, we create articles when there are already significant sources about the athlete. And while she might play in a notable league, notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. All things that certain editors know very well but routenly try to circumvent. Alvaldi ( talk) 10:13, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Redirect to footballer Hiroto Goya as an alternative to deletion, per WP:ATD.Have added information about Eriko Goya to her brother's page, with citation. She has one newspaper article to date counting toward notability – although the top part of the article is based on a Q&A interview, there is one dense paragraph of biographical content at the end (plus a few editor's notes throughout).Once more coverage appears about her, the redirect can easily be converted back into a standalone article, because the edit history will still contain a copy of the article as it currently stands.(The Japanese Wikipedia article about her seems to cite a lot of press releases, plus her own blog, in addition to the Sanfrecce magazine interview at targma.jp, which I agree is a primary source.) Cielquiparle ( talk) 13:24, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Changing !vote to Weak keep in light of additional sources found per the IP editor below, which I've added to the article. The Okinawa Times profile article (accessible for free if you register) is actually the strongest of the lot. Combined with the Chūgoku Shimbun article, it's enough to establish notability per WP:BASIC, and it's a bonus that it's focused coverage in two regional newspapers in different parts of the country. (It's a "weak" keep because it was a borderline case; it still feels a bit early in her career as she only recently made her top-flight league debut, and it would be nice if there were one more piece of coverage...but this often happens, also with young male footballers.) Cielquiparle ( talk) 22:43, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- @ GiantSnowman:, see this above. Young player with ongoing top flight pro career in league that gets coverage. Thanks, Das osmnezz ( talk) 16:14, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment to note sources not in the article, including a paywalled Okinawa Times profile in 2021, trivial match mentions in Hiroshima Sport magazine ( 2, noting her WE debut), and a radio interview on Hiroshima FM. Nothing that solves GNG; while the paywalled article looks significant and biographical, I can't bypass to confirm. - 71.34.68.140 ( talk) 21:02, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep with articles provided by IP above. Nfitz ( talk) 05:56, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Due to Okinawa Times article and other supporting coverage. MrsSnoozyTurtle 09:14, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.