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The result was redirect to List of encyclopedias by language#Polish. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:16, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Encyklopedia Polski
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(So we don't have a deletion sort listing for books...?). Anyway, this seems to fail Wikipedia:Notability (books) and WP:GNG in general. No awards, no reviews. It exists - that's it. No article on pl Wikipedia as an extra red flag. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:36, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 07:38, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 07:38, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Well, if there is no coverage then we have to delete - but were there really no reviews of such a major undertaking? Are Polish newspapers from 1996 available somewhere in a digitized form to look for reviews in?
Haukur (
talk) 09:03, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, but there's still nothing to suggest this is notable. It exists and is not a hoax. That's not enough to merit us having an entry on this. Most books are not notable. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:26, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- I Already added some more comprehensive details and not just a two volume encyclopedia Telex80 ( talk) 09:07, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- Keep but find some more RS sources.-- Bellerophon5685 ( talk) 18:47, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- @ Bellerophon5685: What's your rationale for keeping? AfD WP:NOTAVOTE. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:25, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- In such, that notability of the article weren't applied on true impact, So I will said to Keep that article.
Telex80 (
talk) 07:21, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- What impact? The point is this work has none. It exists, might have been even used as a supplementary materials in some school courses... that doesn't mean it passes WP:GNG/ Wikipedia:Notability (books). Feel free to counter me by listing criteria from those policies that this work meets. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:26, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- In such, that notability of the article weren't applied on true impact, So I will said to Keep that article.
Telex80 (
talk) 07:21, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 15:33, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 15:33, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- Question. I found two peer reviewed journal articles that include the work as a citation and a few doctoral theses as well. Not sure if being utilized in academic research lends to notability though. Thoughts? 4meter4 ( talk) 16:32, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The Keeps are not yet providing any RS - perhaps 4meter4 has something?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance ( talk) 02:31, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Relisting comment: The Keeps are not yet providing any RS - perhaps 4meter4 has something?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance ( talk) 02:31, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Reply. I have nothing to add then what I already stated. It's a source used as a reference in published academic papers, but not any independent coverage. This needs a polish fluent editor with access to polish language references. That's where any RS, if it exists, will be found. I can confidently state there is nothing in the English language. I just left a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poland for help from Polish speaking wikipedians. Maybe relist one more time to see if anything crops up. If not, deletion is probably the best option. 4meter4 ( talk) 17:38, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Comment, Wikipedia has a number of Polish encyclopedias (see the category "Polish encyclopedias"), but there is no "List of Polish encyclopedias where this could be mentioned?
Coolabahapple (
talk) 22:06, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- @ 4meter4 and Coolabahapple: I am Polish :) And I found nothing. That said, Polish sources, such as book reviews etc. are not indexed very well in Google Scholar or such, so there might be some offline or poorly indexed sources I just didn't see. But we can't keep something on the hope that there may be something. So far no indication has been found that it meets notability guidelines mentioned in the lead: no reviews, no awards. At best one could soft delete, redirect and merge it to List_of_encyclopedias_by_language#Polish or such. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:53, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to List_of_encyclopedias_by_language#Polish per Piotrus' very reasonable solution. 4meter4 ( talk) 02:27, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to List_of_encyclopedias_by_language#Polish, agree with above. Coolabahapple ( talk) 05:19, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to List_of_encyclopedias_by_language#Polish. Came from posting at [1] WikiProject. I can't find all that much written on the encyclopedia as a topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MozeTak ( talk • contribs) 05:37, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of encyclopedias by language#Polish. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 17:16, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
Encyklopedia Polski
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(So we don't have a deletion sort listing for books...?). Anyway, this seems to fail Wikipedia:Notability (books) and WP:GNG in general. No awards, no reviews. It exists - that's it. No article on pl Wikipedia as an extra red flag. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:36, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 07:38, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 07:38, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Well, if there is no coverage then we have to delete - but were there really no reviews of such a major undertaking? Are Polish newspapers from 1996 available somewhere in a digitized form to look for reviews in?
Haukur (
talk) 09:03, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, but there's still nothing to suggest this is notable. It exists and is not a hoax. That's not enough to merit us having an entry on this. Most books are not notable. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:26, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- I Already added some more comprehensive details and not just a two volume encyclopedia Telex80 ( talk) 09:07, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- Keep but find some more RS sources.-- Bellerophon5685 ( talk) 18:47, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- @ Bellerophon5685: What's your rationale for keeping? AfD WP:NOTAVOTE. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:25, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- In such, that notability of the article weren't applied on true impact, So I will said to Keep that article.
Telex80 (
talk) 07:21, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- What impact? The point is this work has none. It exists, might have been even used as a supplementary materials in some school courses... that doesn't mean it passes WP:GNG/ Wikipedia:Notability (books). Feel free to counter me by listing criteria from those policies that this work meets. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:26, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- In such, that notability of the article weren't applied on true impact, So I will said to Keep that article.
Telex80 (
talk) 07:21, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 15:33, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 15:33, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- Question. I found two peer reviewed journal articles that include the work as a citation and a few doctoral theses as well. Not sure if being utilized in academic research lends to notability though. Thoughts? 4meter4 ( talk) 16:32, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The Keeps are not yet providing any RS - perhaps 4meter4 has something?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance ( talk) 02:31, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Relisting comment: The Keeps are not yet providing any RS - perhaps 4meter4 has something?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance ( talk) 02:31, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Reply. I have nothing to add then what I already stated. It's a source used as a reference in published academic papers, but not any independent coverage. This needs a polish fluent editor with access to polish language references. That's where any RS, if it exists, will be found. I can confidently state there is nothing in the English language. I just left a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poland for help from Polish speaking wikipedians. Maybe relist one more time to see if anything crops up. If not, deletion is probably the best option. 4meter4 ( talk) 17:38, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Comment, Wikipedia has a number of Polish encyclopedias (see the category "Polish encyclopedias"), but there is no "List of Polish encyclopedias where this could be mentioned?
Coolabahapple (
talk) 22:06, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- @ 4meter4 and Coolabahapple: I am Polish :) And I found nothing. That said, Polish sources, such as book reviews etc. are not indexed very well in Google Scholar or such, so there might be some offline or poorly indexed sources I just didn't see. But we can't keep something on the hope that there may be something. So far no indication has been found that it meets notability guidelines mentioned in the lead: no reviews, no awards. At best one could soft delete, redirect and merge it to List_of_encyclopedias_by_language#Polish or such. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:53, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to List_of_encyclopedias_by_language#Polish per Piotrus' very reasonable solution. 4meter4 ( talk) 02:27, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to List_of_encyclopedias_by_language#Polish, agree with above. Coolabahapple ( talk) 05:19, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to List_of_encyclopedias_by_language#Polish. Came from posting at [1] WikiProject. I can't find all that much written on the encyclopedia as a topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MozeTak ( talk • contribs) 05:37, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
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