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The result was don't keep. In more detail: I'll use the suggestions in the discussion below, and will move the article to Elder Sign (Cthulhu Mythos) and redirect it to Elements of the Cthulhu Mythos#Signs and symbols, and then do some WP:DISAMBIGUATION magic. Interested editors may use the page history to merge things, or change the redirect altogether, but there was consensus to not keep the article. – sgeureka t• c 12:55, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Elder Sign
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The Elder Sign has not been meaningfully discussed by journalists or scholars. This article could be redirected to Elements of the Cthulhu Mythos#Signs and symbols. ― Susmuffin Talk 08:18, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete and move Elder Sign (card game) here. The fictional element is, as mentioned in the nom, not sufficiently covered in a way that would allow this to pass the WP:GNG. Searches bring up plenty of mentions of it within fiction, but no actual real-life analysis. The tabletop game with the same name, however, is notable, and most of the sources that come up during searches are actually talking about it rather than the fictional element it was named after. So, if this article is deleted, the game's article should be moved to this space to be the primary subject. Rorshacma ( talk) 16:34, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- To the extent that it can be cited that the card game is in fact named after this, an abbreviated version of this content could be kept as part of the history or background of the card game, which would effectively then be merged over this page rather than resulting in wholesale deletion. The edit history could be maintained through a round-robin swap to the resulting redirect. BD2412 T 02:10, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Convert into a disambig between the links listed above. It's a symbol known to many geeks, but if there is no in-depth discussion/analysis of its, well, it's a non-notable meme. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:06, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete and do some combo of the above in terms. It fails to establish notability. TTN ( talk) 11:50, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was don't keep. In more detail: I'll use the suggestions in the discussion below, and will move the article to Elder Sign (Cthulhu Mythos) and redirect it to Elements of the Cthulhu Mythos#Signs and symbols, and then do some WP:DISAMBIGUATION magic. Interested editors may use the page history to merge things, or change the redirect altogether, but there was consensus to not keep the article. – sgeureka t• c 12:55, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Elder Sign
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The Elder Sign has not been meaningfully discussed by journalists or scholars. This article could be redirected to Elements of the Cthulhu Mythos#Signs and symbols. ― Susmuffin Talk 08:18, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. ― Susmuffin Talk 08:18, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. ― Susmuffin Talk 08:18, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. ― Susmuffin Talk 08:18, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete and move Elder Sign (card game) here. The fictional element is, as mentioned in the nom, not sufficiently covered in a way that would allow this to pass the WP:GNG. Searches bring up plenty of mentions of it within fiction, but no actual real-life analysis. The tabletop game with the same name, however, is notable, and most of the sources that come up during searches are actually talking about it rather than the fictional element it was named after. So, if this article is deleted, the game's article should be moved to this space to be the primary subject. Rorshacma ( talk) 16:34, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- To the extent that it can be cited that the card game is in fact named after this, an abbreviated version of this content could be kept as part of the history or background of the card game, which would effectively then be merged over this page rather than resulting in wholesale deletion. The edit history could be maintained through a round-robin swap to the resulting redirect. BD2412 T 02:10, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Convert into a disambig between the links listed above. It's a symbol known to many geeks, but if there is no in-depth discussion/analysis of its, well, it's a non-notable meme. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:06, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete and do some combo of the above in terms. It fails to establish notability. TTN ( talk) 11:50, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.