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The result was delete. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 07:24, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
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Non notable musical artist that does not satisfy WP:SINGER & doesn’t meet WP:GNG either. A BEFORE shows a gross lack of notability. Celestina007 ( talk) 03:54, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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Oppose, at least until some South African Wikipedians comment on the notability of the refs, including the one I just added to the page. Newystats ( talk) 06:01, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Newystats, Nope we do not need to wait for South-African editors to comment this is a collaborative project in which we determine notability by the formula “in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources” if an article satisfies this golden rule, then a stand alone article is warranted if not then it isn’t. Waiting for editors from a particular continent to comment before taking action is something I’ve never heard of. Celestina007 ( talk) 08:42, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. The subject of this article fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. The article's sources are either unreliable (refs 3, 4, 5), promotional (refs 1, 6) or not independent (ref 2). A Google search of the subject doesn't show him being discussed in reliable sources. Versace1608 Wanna Talk? 16:09, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- What grounds do you have for saying the
https://www.iol.co.za/ ref is not independent?
Newystats (
talk)
06:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- The entire IOL source contains lengthy quotes from the subject. It can be used in the article but cannot be used to establish notability because it is not a secondary source. Versace1608 Wanna Talk? 14:17, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- What grounds do you have for saying the
https://www.iol.co.za/ ref is not independent?
Newystats (
talk)
06:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 18:50, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 18:50, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Nothing here to show a pass of WP:GNG or WP:NARTIST Sulfurboy ( talk) 18:12, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 07:24, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Dladla Mshunqisi
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Non notable musical artist that does not satisfy WP:SINGER & doesn’t meet WP:GNG either. A BEFORE shows a gross lack of notability. Celestina007 ( talk) 03:54, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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Oppose, at least until some South African Wikipedians comment on the notability of the refs, including the one I just added to the page. Newystats ( talk) 06:01, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Newystats, Nope we do not need to wait for South-African editors to comment this is a collaborative project in which we determine notability by the formula “in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources” if an article satisfies this golden rule, then a stand alone article is warranted if not then it isn’t. Waiting for editors from a particular continent to comment before taking action is something I’ve never heard of. Celestina007 ( talk) 08:42, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. The subject of this article fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. The article's sources are either unreliable (refs 3, 4, 5), promotional (refs 1, 6) or not independent (ref 2). A Google search of the subject doesn't show him being discussed in reliable sources. Versace1608 Wanna Talk? 16:09, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
- What grounds do you have for saying the
https://www.iol.co.za/ ref is not independent?
Newystats (
talk)
06:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- The entire IOL source contains lengthy quotes from the subject. It can be used in the article but cannot be used to establish notability because it is not a secondary source. Versace1608 Wanna Talk? 14:17, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
- What grounds do you have for saying the
https://www.iol.co.za/ ref is not independent?
Newystats (
talk)
06:35, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 18:50, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 18:50, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Nothing here to show a pass of WP:GNG or WP:NARTIST Sulfurboy ( talk) 18:12, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.