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Promotional article on borderline notable company. Almost every reference is a mere announcement, even the NYTimes. The others are promotion, including the Forbes "interview" where the interviewer simply gave the proprietor the opportunity to say whatever he wanted to. . DGG (
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04:17, 12 November 2015 (UTC)reply
This was already nominated for deletion and was endorsed. The article could use a clean-up since the last time I checked, but there is genuine information here, like the fact that FreeBSD is offered. The point of starting the article was to document resources this company offers. Compared to, say,
random television shows, this company is doing quite a bit more for the world. I'm not even an active customer, but I gotta say, even as a public sector medical researcher, I find the hostility toward for-profit companies a little off-putting, especially when compared to the more obviously direct bio articles, for example,
Survivin. Deleting this article does me as much disservice as deleting the article on
cIAP2. I'm pretty sure more people think about DigitalOcean than about
TAZ. Biotech involves bio, but it also involves tech. Where' the balance?
Niels Olson (
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04:43, 12 November 2015 (UTC)reply
It should stay, with lots of new refs added. "Borderline notability"? Did you even try searching
Google News for DigitalOcean? It is the focus of at least 50 articles and mentioned in dozens more. Do your research before claiming a famous company is "borderline non-notable".
Wonderfl(reply)05:46, 12 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Not sure either. At a glance, it seems like a keep, but many of the sources are much, much flimsier than they first appear. Effort towards cleanup here might also benefit
Libscore, which is closely related and has similar problems.
Grayfell (
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23:49, 13 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep. Because, are you f***ing serious? They've undergone a few series funding rounds and had PLENTY of press each time its happened. Very notable at this point.
riffic (
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21:22, 14 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep notability has been clearly established. The nominator states that the reliable sources are merely promotion -- this appears to be an opinion that articles in the business press are suspect.
Sbwoodside (
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21:19, 16 November 2015 (UTC)reply
In the tech industry, funding events are a common trigger event for coverage of a company. The sources will often use the funding event as a hook for an article about the company. Most of the articles aren't simply about the funding, they include news about the company and its products.
Sbwoodside (
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05:52, 17 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Deep coverage provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond routine announcements and makes it possible to write more than a
very brief, incomplete stub about an organization.
I agree that trivial mentions of a company's getting funded is routine business. But if sources provide "deep coverage" (which is the case here), then the company is considered notable under the "deep coverage" standard.
And in this case, there are numerous sources about the company's history and products that are unrelated to the funding.
Weak delete / userify many promo sources, promo content but seems worthy and been around a while. I share DGGs sentiments. It's a choice of what we want WP to be, and whether we keep promo content or have a higher level of protection for promo on WP. This one appears borderline, so I could see it both ways. I'm 100% convinced that a single list (including an outpouring of promo sources - without going through them all, I'm speculating) isn't a good way to decern, but two lists - one discounted promo sources and one not may help. Widefox;
talk13:27, 18 November 2015 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Promotional article on borderline notable company. Almost every reference is a mere announcement, even the NYTimes. The others are promotion, including the Forbes "interview" where the interviewer simply gave the proprietor the opportunity to say whatever he wanted to. . DGG (
talk )
04:17, 12 November 2015 (UTC)reply
This was already nominated for deletion and was endorsed. The article could use a clean-up since the last time I checked, but there is genuine information here, like the fact that FreeBSD is offered. The point of starting the article was to document resources this company offers. Compared to, say,
random television shows, this company is doing quite a bit more for the world. I'm not even an active customer, but I gotta say, even as a public sector medical researcher, I find the hostility toward for-profit companies a little off-putting, especially when compared to the more obviously direct bio articles, for example,
Survivin. Deleting this article does me as much disservice as deleting the article on
cIAP2. I'm pretty sure more people think about DigitalOcean than about
TAZ. Biotech involves bio, but it also involves tech. Where' the balance?
Niels Olson (
talk)
04:43, 12 November 2015 (UTC)reply
It should stay, with lots of new refs added. "Borderline notability"? Did you even try searching
Google News for DigitalOcean? It is the focus of at least 50 articles and mentioned in dozens more. Do your research before claiming a famous company is "borderline non-notable".
Wonderfl(reply)05:46, 12 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Not sure either. At a glance, it seems like a keep, but many of the sources are much, much flimsier than they first appear. Effort towards cleanup here might also benefit
Libscore, which is closely related and has similar problems.
Grayfell (
talk)
23:49, 13 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep. Because, are you f***ing serious? They've undergone a few series funding rounds and had PLENTY of press each time its happened. Very notable at this point.
riffic (
talk)
21:22, 14 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Keep notability has been clearly established. The nominator states that the reliable sources are merely promotion -- this appears to be an opinion that articles in the business press are suspect.
Sbwoodside (
talk)
21:19, 16 November 2015 (UTC)reply
In the tech industry, funding events are a common trigger event for coverage of a company. The sources will often use the funding event as a hook for an article about the company. Most of the articles aren't simply about the funding, they include news about the company and its products.
Sbwoodside (
talk)
05:52, 17 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Deep coverage provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond routine announcements and makes it possible to write more than a
very brief, incomplete stub about an organization.
I agree that trivial mentions of a company's getting funded is routine business. But if sources provide "deep coverage" (which is the case here), then the company is considered notable under the "deep coverage" standard.
And in this case, there are numerous sources about the company's history and products that are unrelated to the funding.
Weak delete / userify many promo sources, promo content but seems worthy and been around a while. I share DGGs sentiments. It's a choice of what we want WP to be, and whether we keep promo content or have a higher level of protection for promo on WP. This one appears borderline, so I could see it both ways. I'm 100% convinced that a single list (including an outpouring of promo sources - without going through them all, I'm speculating) isn't a good way to decern, but two lists - one discounted promo sources and one not may help. Widefox;
talk13:27, 18 November 2015 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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