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The result was redirect to Darwin (given name). Star Mississippi 01:06, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
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I had turned this article into a redirect to Rohan, Middle-earth#Horses and warfare on January 12 of this year, which was undone on February 29. I can't see evidence of notability for this name; it fails WP:NNAME and the sources I could find are limited to baby name websites and dictionaries, so it may also be a WP:NOTDICT fail. Alternatively, the redirect could be restored, or it could be redirected to Darwin (given name) or Darwin (surname). AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 03:39, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Language, History, and England. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:30, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Of course it was undone, because as already documented, it's an Old (ancient) Anglo-Saxon/English name predating (by hundreds/thousands years) usage by JRR Tolkien and other fantasy authors/creators that in fact use it (such as
Warhammer 40,000). Wikipedia isn't a fandom encyclopaedia, so real-world takes precedence. Nevertheless, I think it'd be okay to redirect to
Darwin (given name), as in its history there were only
forenames (such as
Robin of Locksley) with people using place names and professions at the end, which some became surnames later.--
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07:38, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- You have a point. I just saw that Déorwine redirected to that, but in hindsight I should’ve just redirected to one of the Darwins. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 21:33, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Darwin (given name) or as determined. Happy to go along with all that has been said above. There's no reason to make it a Middle-earth (Tolkien) redirect. If we have nothing more to say about Deorwine than that it is an OE name, I'd say it likely falls foul of WP:NOTDICT; but I have no objection to redirecting it to Darwin (given name). Chiswick Chap ( talk) 12:34, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Darwin (given name). Star Mississippi 01:06, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
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I had turned this article into a redirect to Rohan, Middle-earth#Horses and warfare on January 12 of this year, which was undone on February 29. I can't see evidence of notability for this name; it fails WP:NNAME and the sources I could find are limited to baby name websites and dictionaries, so it may also be a WP:NOTDICT fail. Alternatively, the redirect could be restored, or it could be redirected to Darwin (given name) or Darwin (surname). AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 03:39, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Language, History, and England. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:30, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Of course it was undone, because as already documented, it's an Old (ancient) Anglo-Saxon/English name predating (by hundreds/thousands years) usage by JRR Tolkien and other fantasy authors/creators that in fact use it (such as
Warhammer 40,000). Wikipedia isn't a fandom encyclopaedia, so real-world takes precedence. Nevertheless, I think it'd be okay to redirect to
Darwin (given name), as in its history there were only
forenames (such as
Robin of Locksley) with people using place names and professions at the end, which some became surnames later.--
dchmelik☀️🦉🐝🐍(
talk|
contrib)
07:38, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- You have a point. I just saw that Déorwine redirected to that, but in hindsight I should’ve just redirected to one of the Darwins. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse ( talk) 21:33, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Darwin (given name) or as determined. Happy to go along with all that has been said above. There's no reason to make it a Middle-earth (Tolkien) redirect. If we have nothing more to say about Deorwine than that it is an OE name, I'd say it likely falls foul of WP:NOTDICT; but I have no objection to redirecting it to Darwin (given name). Chiswick Chap ( talk) 12:34, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.