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The result was delete. Randykitty ( talk) 16:09, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
David Alan Bailey
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Non-notable actor. Had a lot of bit roles as a child in the 1960s and 70s, but nothing substantial. His only major role was the lead in At the End of the Rainbow, which does not seem to be a major film. Natg 19 ( talk) 18:22, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep An actor does not have to have been in a "major" film to have an article. This person meets both WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. MarnetteD| Talk 19:14, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Can you list some RS that show he passes GNG? I was unable to find any (thought that might be because his roles were 40 years ago). Natg 19 ( talk) 20:42, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - his roles were either flashbacks or those who were so minor that his character didn't even have a last name. We ahve tended to delete child actor articles. Bearian ( talk) 20:23, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete It's not easy to assess the notability of this actor when even the obituaries of the other David Bailey (actor) claim some of this David Alan Bailey's roles! Looking at evidence for WP:NACTOR, the subject of this article definitely starred in At the End of the Rainbow, which is notable in that it has its own WP article. He also starred in Three Wise Boys, which does not have a WP article, so is probably not notable; and he starred in Adventure in Satan's Canyon, which is actually listed in both the Film and TV tables in this article. It was one of Disney's weekly tv movies, one hour long, and doesn't have its own WP article (the series does, and that article explains that until 1976, one hour was the longest timeslot for Disney films on TV).
- They are the only shows I can find that he definitely had significant roles in. His role in Peege, which is definitely a notable film, could be considered significant, as he was one of 6 main characters - but 4 other characters were much more central than he was. There do appear to be some other films he appeared in - Boxoffice says he had a role in The Carpetbaggers, but as he's not even listed in its cast on IMDB, it can't have been a significant part. He was going to voice Mowgli in The Jungle Book (1967), but his voice changed, so that is a significant role he did not end up playing. [1] So there is no evidence that he meets WP:NACTOR #1, "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." I also don't find enough coverage of him to meet WP:GNG. (Child actors who have had significant roles in multiple notable films or tv shows, etc, would meet WP:NACTOR #1. I hope we have not "tended to delete child actor articles" about any who do meet that criterion!) RebeccaGreen ( talk) 13:59, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Fails NACTOR. -- qedk ( t 桜 c) 18:41, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep This person meets both WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR Lubbad85 ( ☎) 03:05, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - if his recurring role on The Andy Griffith Show is deemed significant, then he would pass NACTOR when combined with the starring role of At the End of the Rainbow. I can't see how GNG is met at all with the sources currently in the article. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 16:02, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Randykitty ( talk) 16:09, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
David Alan Bailey
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Non-notable actor. Had a lot of bit roles as a child in the 1960s and 70s, but nothing substantial. His only major role was the lead in At the End of the Rainbow, which does not seem to be a major film. Natg 19 ( talk) 18:22, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep An actor does not have to have been in a "major" film to have an article. This person meets both WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. MarnetteD| Talk 19:14, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Can you list some RS that show he passes GNG? I was unable to find any (thought that might be because his roles were 40 years ago). Natg 19 ( talk) 20:42, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - his roles were either flashbacks or those who were so minor that his character didn't even have a last name. We ahve tended to delete child actor articles. Bearian ( talk) 20:23, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kpg jhp jm 02:31, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kpg jhp jm 02:31, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete It's not easy to assess the notability of this actor when even the obituaries of the other David Bailey (actor) claim some of this David Alan Bailey's roles! Looking at evidence for WP:NACTOR, the subject of this article definitely starred in At the End of the Rainbow, which is notable in that it has its own WP article. He also starred in Three Wise Boys, which does not have a WP article, so is probably not notable; and he starred in Adventure in Satan's Canyon, which is actually listed in both the Film and TV tables in this article. It was one of Disney's weekly tv movies, one hour long, and doesn't have its own WP article (the series does, and that article explains that until 1976, one hour was the longest timeslot for Disney films on TV).
- They are the only shows I can find that he definitely had significant roles in. His role in Peege, which is definitely a notable film, could be considered significant, as he was one of 6 main characters - but 4 other characters were much more central than he was. There do appear to be some other films he appeared in - Boxoffice says he had a role in The Carpetbaggers, but as he's not even listed in its cast on IMDB, it can't have been a significant part. He was going to voice Mowgli in The Jungle Book (1967), but his voice changed, so that is a significant role he did not end up playing. [1] So there is no evidence that he meets WP:NACTOR #1, "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." I also don't find enough coverage of him to meet WP:GNG. (Child actors who have had significant roles in multiple notable films or tv shows, etc, would meet WP:NACTOR #1. I hope we have not "tended to delete child actor articles" about any who do meet that criterion!) RebeccaGreen ( talk) 13:59, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Fails NACTOR. -- qedk ( t 桜 c) 18:41, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep This person meets both WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR Lubbad85 ( ☎) 03:05, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - if his recurring role on The Andy Griffith Show is deemed significant, then he would pass NACTOR when combined with the starring role of At the End of the Rainbow. I can't see how GNG is met at all with the sources currently in the article. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 16:02, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
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