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The result was redirect to Cristiano Ronaldo#Family, children, and relationships. Liz Read! Talk! 05:11, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Cristiano Ronaldo Jr
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- Cristiano Ronaldo Jr ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
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It does not appear that this player is notable on his own merit, beyond his connection to his father. If anything, this is way WP:TOOSOON, but I also think it fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG on its own merits. Anwegmann ( talk) 07:13, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Portugal. Shellwood ( talk) 09:08, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect – This article previously ended as redirect under the name Cristiano Ronaldo Jr. You should gone to redirects per discussion instead. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:23, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Cristiano Ronaldo#Family, children, and relationships per previous AfD. Broc ( talk) 13:45, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- if there's
Enzo Alves, why not him?
Slancio2 (
talk)
14:04, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- @ Slancio2 we are debating whether to delete the page "Cristiano Ronaldo Jr" and not another one. If you think the article Enzo Alves does not fulfill notability criteria, feel free to nominate it for deletion. WP:WHATABOUTX is not a valid argument against deletion. Broc ( talk) 14:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Notability is not inherited, but there isn't an insignificant amount of independent coverage (see Google News). C F A 💬 20:13, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Cristiano Ronaldo#Family, children, and relationships Right now as-is the subject's career is fully tied to where their father is in the same way the son of Barry Bonds was in the 2000s as a batboy; there's really no 'there' to discern on a U15 team. One of the sources is fully disqualified as a clickbait 'how much is this child worth' article that's talking out of its you-know-what (it's zero. He's a kid.). Nate • ( chatter) 00:35, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – Due to the player's passion, this article tends to be recreated over and over again. CR Jr. has some notability and the tendency is to increase. As pertinent as the nomination is, I don’t see it as a solution. Svartner ( talk) 04:42, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The proper time for article creation is likely to be if they earn a cap on the main squad, certainly not before that. Who their parent is doesn't give them a notability multiplier regarding article creation since they're still only on a U15 squad as part of a national league that is effectively on par with a local AYSO club. Nate • ( chatter) 18:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 10:49, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect per previous AFD and fully protect to prevent re-creation. Giant Snowman 10:51, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect and protect the redirect. Nothing has changed since the last AFD, his notability is still WP:NOTINHERITED. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 20:35, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect as nom. I didn't realize that there was a separate process for redirection. Had I known, I likely would have gone that direction with the nomination. That said, I do think this article should be deleted, if not redirected, there is no inherent notability here.
Anwegmann (
talk)
00:06, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- As the only dissenting vote, I do not oppose it, but the chances of the article being recreated as "Cristiano Ronaldo Junior" or similar are enormous.
Svartner (
talk)
04:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- So should we, as @ GiantSnowman suggests, "fully protect" it? Anwegmann ( talk) 06:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- As the only dissenting vote, I do not oppose it, but the chances of the article being recreated as "Cristiano Ronaldo Junior" or similar are enormous.
Svartner (
talk)
04:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Restore redirect and SALT Everyone pretty much said it above. Govvy ( talk) 12:16, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Just wanted to add that there was a third AFD, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cristiano Ronaldo jr before these two were created. 05:08, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was redirect to Cristiano Ronaldo#Family, children, and relationships. Liz Read! Talk! 05:11, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Cristiano Ronaldo Jr
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AfDs for this article:
- Cristiano Ronaldo Jr ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
It does not appear that this player is notable on his own merit, beyond his connection to his father. If anything, this is way WP:TOOSOON, but I also think it fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG on its own merits. Anwegmann ( talk) 07:13, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Portugal. Shellwood ( talk) 09:08, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect – This article previously ended as redirect under the name Cristiano Ronaldo Jr. You should gone to redirects per discussion instead. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:23, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Cristiano Ronaldo#Family, children, and relationships per previous AfD. Broc ( talk) 13:45, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- if there's
Enzo Alves, why not him?
Slancio2 (
talk)
14:04, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- @ Slancio2 we are debating whether to delete the page "Cristiano Ronaldo Jr" and not another one. If you think the article Enzo Alves does not fulfill notability criteria, feel free to nominate it for deletion. WP:WHATABOUTX is not a valid argument against deletion. Broc ( talk) 14:37, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Notability is not inherited, but there isn't an insignificant amount of independent coverage (see Google News). C F A 💬 20:13, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Cristiano Ronaldo#Family, children, and relationships Right now as-is the subject's career is fully tied to where their father is in the same way the son of Barry Bonds was in the 2000s as a batboy; there's really no 'there' to discern on a U15 team. One of the sources is fully disqualified as a clickbait 'how much is this child worth' article that's talking out of its you-know-what (it's zero. He's a kid.). Nate • ( chatter) 00:35, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – Due to the player's passion, this article tends to be recreated over and over again. CR Jr. has some notability and the tendency is to increase. As pertinent as the nomination is, I don’t see it as a solution. Svartner ( talk) 04:42, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The proper time for article creation is likely to be if they earn a cap on the main squad, certainly not before that. Who their parent is doesn't give them a notability multiplier regarding article creation since they're still only on a U15 squad as part of a national league that is effectively on par with a local AYSO club. Nate • ( chatter) 18:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 10:49, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect per previous AFD and fully protect to prevent re-creation. Giant Snowman 10:51, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect and protect the redirect. Nothing has changed since the last AFD, his notability is still WP:NOTINHERITED. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 20:35, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect as nom. I didn't realize that there was a separate process for redirection. Had I known, I likely would have gone that direction with the nomination. That said, I do think this article should be deleted, if not redirected, there is no inherent notability here.
Anwegmann (
talk)
00:06, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- As the only dissenting vote, I do not oppose it, but the chances of the article being recreated as "Cristiano Ronaldo Junior" or similar are enormous.
Svartner (
talk)
04:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- So should we, as @ GiantSnowman suggests, "fully protect" it? Anwegmann ( talk) 06:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- As the only dissenting vote, I do not oppose it, but the chances of the article being recreated as "Cristiano Ronaldo Junior" or similar are enormous.
Svartner (
talk)
04:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Restore redirect and SALT Everyone pretty much said it above. Govvy ( talk) 12:16, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Just wanted to add that there was a third AFD, at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cristiano Ronaldo jr before these two were created. 05:08, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.