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The result was keep. COI has nothing to do with the notability of an article. (non-admin closure) sst✈ 03:08, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
Crimson Delight
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Advertisement for non-notable apple cultivar, created by an account of the same name. Orange Mike | Talk 01:19, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 01:30, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
I will gladly change my user name to something else. I guarantee some fan of lets say Beyonce created an account with Beyonce in the user name just to edit the Beyonce article. I don't see this as a big deal. I created a new account and that is the name I used. I also don't see anywhere where there is advertisement. The article is about the apple, the tree and the name. This is a new variety of apple. There are other articles on Wikipedia about new apples that aren't being deleted, like Lady Alice, /info/en/?search=Lady_Alice_%28apple%29. That article has less references and that variety of apple is owned by one company and only planted by that company. The Crimson Delight apple was available to all apple growers in Washington State and multiple growers grow that variety. CD ( talk) 01:38, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 02:03, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- Comment – If this is not independently notable to qualify for a standalone article, it could be merged to List of apple cultivars. North America 1000 02:04, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- What makes a variety independently notable for a standalone article? How did Lady Alice, Envy, Ambrosia, Cameo, Jazz, Opal and Pacific Rose get their own articles? I've added additional citations, added additional information and plan on adding more as the variety grows. CD ( talk) 06:26, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- Weak keep Weak due to current quality of article. If it can be improved then definite keep. See jonathan (apple) for example. Aoziwe ( talk) 12:32, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- Keep I don't think we have any clearly defined notability guidelines for apple (or other fruit and vegetable cultivars). This is no less notable then other apple cultivars with articles. It seems that the user name issue is what triggered this getting sent to AfD. The article certainly should be improved the. Additional reliable sources may be using the formal cultivar name 'WA 2' rather than the trade name "Crimson Delight" (e.g. this article). Plantdrew ( talk) 17:53, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 01:01, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Compact little article nice read. Funny thing, the more you search about a topic, the more Google turns up. Can take a few weeks. The editor should declare his/her WP:COI on the talk page so we can remove the maintenance tags. 009o9 ( talk) 05:40, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
- The COI came up due to my original user name as it was the same as the article. When i originally signed up I tried multiple user names with no luck and since I was going to write about the crimson delight apple I used that as my user name. I have since changed it (after having to try multiple other names) but it is done. No COI. CD ( talk) 06:46, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Keep This is one of 206 listed in the category Category:Apple cultivars. This one is likely middle of the pack for those that are listed there. It appears to be a commercially sold variety, which meets a certain level of notability. Without a wholesale pruning of the cultivar orchard with clear guidelines for deleting/keeping, this should stay. Regarding COI, how can there be conflict of interest just because someone uses an apple name for their username? It's an interesting username. I wish User:Crimson Delight would have kept it rather than being persuaded or bullied into something different. First Light ( talk) 14:56, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
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The result was keep. COI has nothing to do with the notability of an article. (non-admin closure) sst✈ 03:08, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
Crimson Delight
- Crimson Delight ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Advertisement for non-notable apple cultivar, created by an account of the same name. Orange Mike | Talk 01:19, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 01:30, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
I will gladly change my user name to something else. I guarantee some fan of lets say Beyonce created an account with Beyonce in the user name just to edit the Beyonce article. I don't see this as a big deal. I created a new account and that is the name I used. I also don't see anywhere where there is advertisement. The article is about the apple, the tree and the name. This is a new variety of apple. There are other articles on Wikipedia about new apples that aren't being deleted, like Lady Alice, /info/en/?search=Lady_Alice_%28apple%29. That article has less references and that variety of apple is owned by one company and only planted by that company. The Crimson Delight apple was available to all apple growers in Washington State and multiple growers grow that variety. CD ( talk) 01:38, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 02:03, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- Comment – If this is not independently notable to qualify for a standalone article, it could be merged to List of apple cultivars. North America 1000 02:04, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- What makes a variety independently notable for a standalone article? How did Lady Alice, Envy, Ambrosia, Cameo, Jazz, Opal and Pacific Rose get their own articles? I've added additional citations, added additional information and plan on adding more as the variety grows. CD ( talk) 06:26, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- Weak keep Weak due to current quality of article. If it can be improved then definite keep. See jonathan (apple) for example. Aoziwe ( talk) 12:32, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- Keep I don't think we have any clearly defined notability guidelines for apple (or other fruit and vegetable cultivars). This is no less notable then other apple cultivars with articles. It seems that the user name issue is what triggered this getting sent to AfD. The article certainly should be improved the. Additional reliable sources may be using the formal cultivar name 'WA 2' rather than the trade name "Crimson Delight" (e.g. this article). Plantdrew ( talk) 17:53, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 01:01, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Compact little article nice read. Funny thing, the more you search about a topic, the more Google turns up. Can take a few weeks. The editor should declare his/her WP:COI on the talk page so we can remove the maintenance tags. 009o9 ( talk) 05:40, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
- The COI came up due to my original user name as it was the same as the article. When i originally signed up I tried multiple user names with no luck and since I was going to write about the crimson delight apple I used that as my user name. I have since changed it (after having to try multiple other names) but it is done. No COI. CD ( talk) 06:46, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Keep This is one of 206 listed in the category Category:Apple cultivars. This one is likely middle of the pack for those that are listed there. It appears to be a commercially sold variety, which meets a certain level of notability. Without a wholesale pruning of the cultivar orchard with clear guidelines for deleting/keeping, this should stay. Regarding COI, how can there be conflict of interest just because someone uses an apple name for their username? It's an interesting username. I wish User:Crimson Delight would have kept it rather than being persuaded or bullied into something different. First Light ( talk) 14:56, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:18, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organisms-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:18, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.