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The result was delete. RL0919 ( talk) 17:39, 17 June 2019 (UTC) reply

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Musician never charted nor received certification for sales. A majority of the sources used in the article are either unreliable or self published, and a news search only brings up more unreliable interviews and coverage of his music. Fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 17:25, 10 June 2019 (UTC) reply

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Musician has been featured on Billboard magazine [1] [2] [3] and other large outlets for the genre (YourEDM, Dancing Astronaut, EDM.COM) - all independent entities. Has been featured in print in the International Music Summit and Mixmag 'Industry Insider' [4] (criterion 1 - WP:MUSICBIO). Has released an EP on both Astralwerks (part of Universal Music Group - major label) and 2 EPs on Empire Distribution (large independent label) criterion 5 - WP:MUSICBIO. Several tracks have been added to rotation on US national radio (SiriusXM BPM and Electric Area) [5] criterion 11 - WP:MUSICBIO. Due to fulfilling multiple of said criteria believe artist passes WP:MUSICBIO. Suggest article is edited to remove improper sources. Berkeleys88 ( talk) 18:46, 10 June 2019 (UTC) Berkeleys88 ( talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Striking sockpuppet comments. -- Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 00:14, 16 June 2019 (UTC) reply

* Comment It should be noted that nearly 90% of all released music is to some degree or another owned by one of the "Big Three" Music Groups (Universal, Sony, or Warners). For a label to be under the ownership of one of these is not the same as being signed/or released by a major label, per WP:MUSICBIO notability criteria. The label Astralwerks needs to be judged on its own merits rather than be assumed to be a major label simply because of its parent ownership. Similarly, Empire is a distribution service that accounts for everything from major labels to Soundcloud and Spotify releases; association with this service needs to be assessed on it's own merits and not confused with recording for the Empire label. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 17:05, 11 June 2019 (UTC) reply
* Comment "90% of all released music is owned by major labels" seems like a rather unsubstantiated claim; there are a lot of amateur musicians who self release their music (40,000 tracks are added to Spotify daily [6]), and it seems unlikely that the number of artists signing major label deals outnumbers this 10:1. I agree being part-owned by a major is not the same as being a major label; however Astralwerks is under direct UMG control, underwent corporate restructuring to be a sublabel of Capitol US, and works from the Capitol US building in Los Angeles (see Astralwerks). Indeed when researching a specific track (e.g. Codeko's Astralwerks tracks) they are is signed to Universal Music Group [7] - showing Astralwerks/Capitol US is operating as part of UMG. With regards to Empire, it is not a service akin to one such as DistroKid where anyone can release their music. For Empire Distribution, the word 'Distribution' (vs Records) refers to the model Empire uses to assign track rights [8] which is different to a typical major label (which takes all copyright), hence the difference in nomenclature. It is not a 'service' that works for other labels/platforms which above seems to imply; they sign & release between 6-10 tracks a week, same as any other large label. Berkeleys88 ( talk) 10:27, 12 June 2019 (UTC) Striking sockpuppet comments. -- Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 00:14, 16 June 2019 (UTC) reply

References

  1. ^ "Kygo & Selena Gomez's 'It Ain't Me' Gets a Shimmering, High-Energy Remix By Codeko". Billboard.
  2. ^ "Austin Mahone & Codeko Team Up to 'Say Hi' on Feel Good Jam". Billboard.
  3. ^ "Codeko Premieres Electric Zoo 2016 Anthem 'Walking With Lions'". Billboard.
  4. ^ "IMS Mixmag Industry Insider 2016-08-26". imsmixmagindustryinsider.
  5. ^ "Emerging Electro: New tracks from GRiZ, Codeko, Matoma + more (9/26/2016)". SiriusXM.
  6. ^ https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/nearly-40000-tracks-are-now-being-added-to-spotify-every-single-day/. {{ cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= ( help)
  7. ^ "USA Public Record Copyright Catalog".
  8. ^ "Distribution Deal vs. Recording Deal".
  •  Checkuser note: Berkeleys88 is a  Confirmed sock puppet of Eajclark. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 06:16, 15 June 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Newshunter12 ( talk) 04:26, 17 June 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Appears to be the work of SPA editors--since identified as socks--with promotional intent. Services such as Soundcloud and Empire distribution are junk as far as backing notability, but an EP released by Astrelwerks might lead to something but its as the writer/producer for another artist so for right now it's not enough, especially with no independent RS to note it's impact/success. Overall, the sourcing is weak, trivial promotional coverage, user submitted sites. and member's promotional services like EDM and IMS MixMag. Even the Billboard links are run-of-the-mill "premieres" announcing new releases; it is "coverage" that originates with the an artist submission in hope of being selected rather than reporting on significant news or accomplishment. Still, at least the work is good enough to beat out the other artists soliciting coverage so in the most charitable assessment, this could be WP:TOOSOON. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 15:06, 17 June 2019 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. RL0919 ( talk) 17:39, 17 June 2019 (UTC) reply

Codeko (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Musician never charted nor received certification for sales. A majority of the sources used in the article are either unreliable or self published, and a news search only brings up more unreliable interviews and coverage of his music. Fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 17:25, 10 June 2019 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 17:25, 10 June 2019 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 17:25, 10 June 2019 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:17, 10 June 2019 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:17, 10 June 2019 (UTC) reply

Musician has been featured on Billboard magazine [1] [2] [3] and other large outlets for the genre (YourEDM, Dancing Astronaut, EDM.COM) - all independent entities. Has been featured in print in the International Music Summit and Mixmag 'Industry Insider' [4] (criterion 1 - WP:MUSICBIO). Has released an EP on both Astralwerks (part of Universal Music Group - major label) and 2 EPs on Empire Distribution (large independent label) criterion 5 - WP:MUSICBIO. Several tracks have been added to rotation on US national radio (SiriusXM BPM and Electric Area) [5] criterion 11 - WP:MUSICBIO. Due to fulfilling multiple of said criteria believe artist passes WP:MUSICBIO. Suggest article is edited to remove improper sources. Berkeleys88 ( talk) 18:46, 10 June 2019 (UTC) Berkeleys88 ( talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Striking sockpuppet comments. -- Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 00:14, 16 June 2019 (UTC) reply

* Comment It should be noted that nearly 90% of all released music is to some degree or another owned by one of the "Big Three" Music Groups (Universal, Sony, or Warners). For a label to be under the ownership of one of these is not the same as being signed/or released by a major label, per WP:MUSICBIO notability criteria. The label Astralwerks needs to be judged on its own merits rather than be assumed to be a major label simply because of its parent ownership. Similarly, Empire is a distribution service that accounts for everything from major labels to Soundcloud and Spotify releases; association with this service needs to be assessed on it's own merits and not confused with recording for the Empire label. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 17:05, 11 June 2019 (UTC) reply
* Comment "90% of all released music is owned by major labels" seems like a rather unsubstantiated claim; there are a lot of amateur musicians who self release their music (40,000 tracks are added to Spotify daily [6]), and it seems unlikely that the number of artists signing major label deals outnumbers this 10:1. I agree being part-owned by a major is not the same as being a major label; however Astralwerks is under direct UMG control, underwent corporate restructuring to be a sublabel of Capitol US, and works from the Capitol US building in Los Angeles (see Astralwerks). Indeed when researching a specific track (e.g. Codeko's Astralwerks tracks) they are is signed to Universal Music Group [7] - showing Astralwerks/Capitol US is operating as part of UMG. With regards to Empire, it is not a service akin to one such as DistroKid where anyone can release their music. For Empire Distribution, the word 'Distribution' (vs Records) refers to the model Empire uses to assign track rights [8] which is different to a typical major label (which takes all copyright), hence the difference in nomenclature. It is not a 'service' that works for other labels/platforms which above seems to imply; they sign & release between 6-10 tracks a week, same as any other large label. Berkeleys88 ( talk) 10:27, 12 June 2019 (UTC) Striking sockpuppet comments. -- Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 00:14, 16 June 2019 (UTC) reply

References

  1. ^ "Kygo & Selena Gomez's 'It Ain't Me' Gets a Shimmering, High-Energy Remix By Codeko". Billboard.
  2. ^ "Austin Mahone & Codeko Team Up to 'Say Hi' on Feel Good Jam". Billboard.
  3. ^ "Codeko Premieres Electric Zoo 2016 Anthem 'Walking With Lions'". Billboard.
  4. ^ "IMS Mixmag Industry Insider 2016-08-26". imsmixmagindustryinsider.
  5. ^ "Emerging Electro: New tracks from GRiZ, Codeko, Matoma + more (9/26/2016)". SiriusXM.
  6. ^ https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/nearly-40000-tracks-are-now-being-added-to-spotify-every-single-day/. {{ cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= ( help)
  7. ^ "USA Public Record Copyright Catalog".
  8. ^ "Distribution Deal vs. Recording Deal".
  •  Checkuser note: Berkeleys88 is a  Confirmed sock puppet of Eajclark. NinjaRobotPirate ( talk) 06:16, 15 June 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Newshunter12 ( talk) 04:26, 17 June 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Appears to be the work of SPA editors--since identified as socks--with promotional intent. Services such as Soundcloud and Empire distribution are junk as far as backing notability, but an EP released by Astrelwerks might lead to something but its as the writer/producer for another artist so for right now it's not enough, especially with no independent RS to note it's impact/success. Overall, the sourcing is weak, trivial promotional coverage, user submitted sites. and member's promotional services like EDM and IMS MixMag. Even the Billboard links are run-of-the-mill "premieres" announcing new releases; it is "coverage" that originates with the an artist submission in hope of being selected rather than reporting on significant news or accomplishment. Still, at least the work is good enough to beat out the other artists soliciting coverage so in the most charitable assessment, this could be WP:TOOSOON. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 15:06, 17 June 2019 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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