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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 14:35, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
Bob Degen
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Only source on page is an AllMusic EL with zero reviews, only a bio. Aside from this review I found only passing mentions. QuietHere ( talk) 16:29, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Germany, and United States of America. QuietHere ( talk) 16:29, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete links are all Discogs then the streaming sites. Nothing about this fellow. Oaktree b ( talk) 19:20, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep A quick BEFORE reveals many high-quality sources deomstrating Mr Degen's notability:
- An entry in the The New Grove Dictionary of Jazz
- An entry in The Penguin Guide to Jazz on CD
- An entry by Ron Wynn at All Music
- An article in Frankfurter Rundschau
- Just one of the first two would justify the article. Many other sources to be found too. I'll work on better incorporating these sources into the article when I have time. The nom may want to consider withdrawing. Vladimir.copic ( talk) 02:30, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Author Keep He's in The New Grove, an encyclopedia on music. The argument's over at that point. Chubbles ( talk) 06:00, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: As others have noted above, we have Barry Kernfeld's biography in Grove (230 words), which verifies the article details. The subject's career has been largely in Germany, where coverage can be located via google.de, for example this Frankfurter Rundschau article from May 2022, where he is described as "a legend of German Jazz"; he also won the Hessischer Jazzpreis in 1994: [1]. AllyD ( talk) 10:16, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep In addition to the coverage noted above, he's had several albums released by Enja Records. This meets WP:MUSICBIO #5: "Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)." EddieHugh ( talk) 18:10, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- I guess I'm more out of my depth here than I realised. I admit my unfamiliarity with pretty mucch everything y'all have mentioned above, but given the influx of keep votes in agreeance with each other this seems pretty cut and dry. My mistake. Consider this withdrawn. QuietHere ( talk) 21:16, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 14:35, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
Bob Degen
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Only source on page is an AllMusic EL with zero reviews, only a bio. Aside from this review I found only passing mentions. QuietHere ( talk) 16:29, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Germany, and United States of America. QuietHere ( talk) 16:29, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete links are all Discogs then the streaming sites. Nothing about this fellow. Oaktree b ( talk) 19:20, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep A quick BEFORE reveals many high-quality sources deomstrating Mr Degen's notability:
- An entry in the The New Grove Dictionary of Jazz
- An entry in The Penguin Guide to Jazz on CD
- An entry by Ron Wynn at All Music
- An article in Frankfurter Rundschau
- Just one of the first two would justify the article. Many other sources to be found too. I'll work on better incorporating these sources into the article when I have time. The nom may want to consider withdrawing. Vladimir.copic ( talk) 02:30, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Author Keep He's in The New Grove, an encyclopedia on music. The argument's over at that point. Chubbles ( talk) 06:00, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: As others have noted above, we have Barry Kernfeld's biography in Grove (230 words), which verifies the article details. The subject's career has been largely in Germany, where coverage can be located via google.de, for example this Frankfurter Rundschau article from May 2022, where he is described as "a legend of German Jazz"; he also won the Hessischer Jazzpreis in 1994: [1]. AllyD ( talk) 10:16, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep In addition to the coverage noted above, he's had several albums released by Enja Records. This meets WP:MUSICBIO #5: "Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)." EddieHugh ( talk) 18:10, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- I guess I'm more out of my depth here than I realised. I admit my unfamiliarity with pretty mucch everything y'all have mentioned above, but given the influx of keep votes in agreeance with each other this seems pretty cut and dry. My mistake. Consider this withdrawn. QuietHere ( talk) 21:16, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
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