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The result was delete. Daniel ( talk) 04:06, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
Battle of Yankivtsi
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Such a battle has never happened, we are dealing with another WP:OR by @ Forward.ops. On that day, there was a UPA crime against the Polish population in this village, during which 51 people were murdered. This is mentioned in Polish sources ( [1]), as well as in the Ukrainian Wikipedia: Атака на Янківці. Please note the wording used: Атака - attack and Злочин - crime.
I do not propose a move because there is nothing to salvage. Lots of false information: about the command of General Komorowski (who was in Warsaw at the time), about 100,000 Ukrainians in "Polish concentration camps", etc. Marcelus ( talk) 19:44, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Poland, and Ukraine. Marcelus ( talk) 19:44, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Military. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:08, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, clear case of wp:tnt— blindlynx 23:20, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:GNG and possible WP:HOAX. The fact that the background is substantially bigger than the supposed event speaks of trying to pump up the page. Mztourist ( talk) 04:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note. The page has been moved to Jankowce Massacre and totally rewritten. It probably makes sense to undo both and let this AFD play out but I wanted to hear from other people before I did so (and no objections to anyone deciding to do it). The new page seems somewhat more backed but isn't adequately sourced at this time. Skynxnex ( talk) 17:28, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. This is a mess in need of WP:TNTing (and whoever replaced one bad article with another gets a WP:TROUT). The new article is a poorly referenced stub. The old article was little better - it had more references, but 80% of this was a mostly off-topci rant. The old article had only a single RS for the fact that the battle existed ( [2]); it has been tagged as 'failed verification' and I concur - I accessed the article and it does not mention Yankivtsi or Jankowice. In addition to this being deleted, admin action may be needed due to possible falsificaiton of sources per Mztourist. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:09, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete As WP:HOAX. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete short after the article was created I attempted, with my admitted language limitations, to find any sort of sourcing to verify most of the claims and failed. That seems to be backed up by other editors since then and the creator hasn't really been forthcoming with explaining their sources. New version has different but still delete-able problems. Any (if any) recreation of this topic should ideally be from an experienced editor or through AFC. Skynxnex ( talk) 01:24, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete ( WP:HOAX, WP:TNT) Ted52 ( talk) 17:31, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. Daniel ( talk) 04:06, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
Battle of Yankivtsi
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Such a battle has never happened, we are dealing with another WP:OR by @ Forward.ops. On that day, there was a UPA crime against the Polish population in this village, during which 51 people were murdered. This is mentioned in Polish sources ( [1]), as well as in the Ukrainian Wikipedia: Атака на Янківці. Please note the wording used: Атака - attack and Злочин - crime.
I do not propose a move because there is nothing to salvage. Lots of false information: about the command of General Komorowski (who was in Warsaw at the time), about 100,000 Ukrainians in "Polish concentration camps", etc. Marcelus ( talk) 19:44, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Poland, and Ukraine. Marcelus ( talk) 19:44, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Military. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:08, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, clear case of wp:tnt— blindlynx 23:20, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:GNG and possible WP:HOAX. The fact that the background is substantially bigger than the supposed event speaks of trying to pump up the page. Mztourist ( talk) 04:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note. The page has been moved to Jankowce Massacre and totally rewritten. It probably makes sense to undo both and let this AFD play out but I wanted to hear from other people before I did so (and no objections to anyone deciding to do it). The new page seems somewhat more backed but isn't adequately sourced at this time. Skynxnex ( talk) 17:28, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. This is a mess in need of WP:TNTing (and whoever replaced one bad article with another gets a WP:TROUT). The new article is a poorly referenced stub. The old article was little better - it had more references, but 80% of this was a mostly off-topci rant. The old article had only a single RS for the fact that the battle existed ( [2]); it has been tagged as 'failed verification' and I concur - I accessed the article and it does not mention Yankivtsi or Jankowice. In addition to this being deleted, admin action may be needed due to possible falsificaiton of sources per Mztourist. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:09, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete As WP:HOAX. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete short after the article was created I attempted, with my admitted language limitations, to find any sort of sourcing to verify most of the claims and failed. That seems to be backed up by other editors since then and the creator hasn't really been forthcoming with explaining their sources. New version has different but still delete-able problems. Any (if any) recreation of this topic should ideally be from an experienced editor or through AFC. Skynxnex ( talk) 01:24, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Delete ( WP:HOAX, WP:TNT) Ted52 ( talk) 17:31, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
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