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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 00:05, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
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Article has had a notability tag for seven years, and I'm not finding any sources that aren't self-published or passing mentions. The only sources in the article relate to the subject winning a non-notable award and being nominated for another award that doesn't seem notable either. It also appears the article was deleted in 2010 for similar notability issues. Aspening ( talk) 22:08, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete. No significant independent sourcing. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 12:38, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - I can see lots of news pieces written by her, but none about her, and without the latter it's impossible to write a proper and neutral article. This is especially important for BLPs. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:52, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:PROMO. It can't be good if one of the 2 sources is a listing naming them as the Top 40 Promotion of the Year...among 5 others, all unencyclopedic entities themselves. StonyBrook ( talk) 10:15, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete the Article, the subject fails GNG and also it's not notable. Forest90 ( talk) 11:07, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. WP:ANYBIO is not automatically passed by every winner of just any award that exists; it requires notable awards that get reliable source media coverage. But there's none about the awards, and there's none about her as a person either, but nothing stated in the article is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to get over WP:GNG on the sources. This is also a likely conflict of interest, as the article was created by an WP:SPA with no non-Sobel-related edit history — but Wikipedia is WP:NOTLINKEDIN, and is not a place where people are entitled to place their own résumés for the publicity if they don't have reliable source media coverage to make them notable. Bearcat ( talk) 14:06, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 00:05, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Barbara Sobel
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Article has had a notability tag for seven years, and I'm not finding any sources that aren't self-published or passing mentions. The only sources in the article relate to the subject winning a non-notable award and being nominated for another award that doesn't seem notable either. It also appears the article was deleted in 2010 for similar notability issues. Aspening ( talk) 22:08, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator ( talk) 22:15, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator ( talk) 22:15, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Ceethekreator ( talk) 22:15, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. No significant independent sourcing. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 12:38, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - I can see lots of news pieces written by her, but none about her, and without the latter it's impossible to write a proper and neutral article. This is especially important for BLPs. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:52, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:PROMO. It can't be good if one of the 2 sources is a listing naming them as the Top 40 Promotion of the Year...among 5 others, all unencyclopedic entities themselves. StonyBrook ( talk) 10:15, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete the Article, the subject fails GNG and also it's not notable. Forest90 ( talk) 11:07, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. WP:ANYBIO is not automatically passed by every winner of just any award that exists; it requires notable awards that get reliable source media coverage. But there's none about the awards, and there's none about her as a person either, but nothing stated in the article is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to get over WP:GNG on the sources. This is also a likely conflict of interest, as the article was created by an WP:SPA with no non-Sobel-related edit history — but Wikipedia is WP:NOTLINKEDIN, and is not a place where people are entitled to place their own résumés for the publicity if they don't have reliable source media coverage to make them notable. Bearcat ( talk) 14:06, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
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