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The result was delete. ♠ PMC(talk) 21:11, 4 October 2021 (UTC) reply

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Created by a confirmed sockpuppet under B-Goss (musical artist) presumably to avoid detection following previous deletion under this name. None of the sources demonstrate WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO and nothing better found in searches under his stage name or his actual name. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:48, 27 September 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:48, 27 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:48, 27 September 2021 (UTC) reply
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Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
http://djmagmalaysia.my/13/post/2020/03/exclusive-interview-with-b-goss.html No Any artist can be interviewed here, see [1] No ~ No
https://www.bollicinevip.com/b-goss-un-estate-al-massimo-top-dj/ No No Blog No Contains barely any info No
https://www.electromag.it/2021/08/05/regret-the-1-mln-streaming-track-interview-with-the-artists-b-goss-astrality-arinn/ No ? No One small paragraph with little info No
https://www.tuttosalernitana.com/news/curiosita-il-gol-di-minala-al-partenio-lombardi-in-una-canzone-di-b-goss-34156 Yes Yes No Trivial mention No
https://www.macchiedinkiostro.com/2018/05/08/minala-al-96-gol-del-partenio-diventa-canzone/ Yes Yes No Trivial No
https://www.ilmessaggero.it/roma/cronaca/keita_balde_mercedes_henger_flo_rida_belaid-1069534.html Yes Yes No Trivial No
http://testicanzoni.mtv.it/testi-B-Goss-feat.-Flo-Rida,-T-Pain---J-Rand_31655571/testo-We-Gon-Ride-47626199 No No No Lyrics only No
https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/senegal-talento-e-testa-calda-tanti-auguri-keitahttps://calcio.fanpage.it/keita-comparsa-in-un-video-di-flo-rida-assieme-alla-figlia-di-eva-henger/ ? ? ? Dead link ? Unknown
https://www.macchiedinkiostro.com/2018/05/08/minala-al-96-gol-del-partenio-diventa-canzone/ Yes Yes No Trivial No
http://www.settimanalezona.com/notizia.php?id=9797 ? ? ? Dead link ? Unknown
http://djmagmalaysia.my/13/post/2020/03/exclusive-interview-with-b-goss.html Same as #1 ? Unknown
https://music.apple.com/de/album/regret/1569395787?i=1569396069&l=en No Apple Music No
https://music.apple.com/de/album/eyes-clear-feat-ghalil-einstein/1488215495?i=1488215826&l=en No Apple Music No
https://music.apple.com/de/album/whats-on-my-mind-feat-david-celine/1399474059?i=1399475561&l=en No Apple Music No
https://music.apple.com/de/album/eyes-clear-feat-ghalil-einstein/1488215495?i=1488215826&l=en No Apple Music No
https://music.apple.com/de/album/don-trap/1325375885?i=1325376143&l=en No Apple Music No
https://music.apple.com/de/album/we-gon-ride-feat-flo-rida-t-pain-j-rand-kriss-raize-edit-mix/1012363098?i=1012363617&l=en No Apple Music No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}.
Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:54, 27 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICIAN. This looks like shameless self-promotion, and none of the sources appear to be very good ones. His role on Top DJ appears to have been a 30-second interview on one episode, giving his opinion about the contestants – he certainly was not one of the presenters or main judges, so his role on the show appears to be exaggerated. For anyone thinking, "wow, he's worked with some big names in Flo Rida and T-Pain"... he hasn't. He's simply remixed an existing track, "Ride" by J Rand featuring Flo Rida and T-Pain, and placed his name at the top of the credits, and the video for "his" new song intercuts scenes from the original J Rand video into some terrible acting from him and his celebrity friends. One of those friends is a football player from the top Italian football league, which is probably the major reason the video was played on MTV, rather than the song – the claim of being played on MTV claim may be true, but the one working citation just shows the lyrics of the track posted on the MTV website, which anyone can do, and the other citation is the personal website of an Italian TV football pundit, so probably not the best authority on MTV screenings. Richard3120 ( talk) 00:55, 28 September 2021 (UTC) reply
I agree that the claims to notability are heavily exaggerated upon closer inspection and that the celebrity name dropping borders on WP:NOTINHERITED. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:21, 28 September 2021 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ♠ PMC(talk) 21:11, 4 October 2021 (UTC) reply

B-Goss (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Created by a confirmed sockpuppet under B-Goss (musical artist) presumably to avoid detection following previous deletion under this name. None of the sources demonstrate WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO and nothing better found in searches under his stage name or his actual name. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:48, 27 September 2021 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:48, 27 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:48, 27 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:48, 27 September 2021 (UTC) reply
Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
http://djmagmalaysia.my/13/post/2020/03/exclusive-interview-with-b-goss.html No Any artist can be interviewed here, see [1] No ~ No
https://www.bollicinevip.com/b-goss-un-estate-al-massimo-top-dj/ No No Blog No Contains barely any info No
https://www.electromag.it/2021/08/05/regret-the-1-mln-streaming-track-interview-with-the-artists-b-goss-astrality-arinn/ No ? No One small paragraph with little info No
https://www.tuttosalernitana.com/news/curiosita-il-gol-di-minala-al-partenio-lombardi-in-una-canzone-di-b-goss-34156 Yes Yes No Trivial mention No
https://www.macchiedinkiostro.com/2018/05/08/minala-al-96-gol-del-partenio-diventa-canzone/ Yes Yes No Trivial No
https://www.ilmessaggero.it/roma/cronaca/keita_balde_mercedes_henger_flo_rida_belaid-1069534.html Yes Yes No Trivial No
http://testicanzoni.mtv.it/testi-B-Goss-feat.-Flo-Rida,-T-Pain---J-Rand_31655571/testo-We-Gon-Ride-47626199 No No No Lyrics only No
https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/senegal-talento-e-testa-calda-tanti-auguri-keitahttps://calcio.fanpage.it/keita-comparsa-in-un-video-di-flo-rida-assieme-alla-figlia-di-eva-henger/ ? ? ? Dead link ? Unknown
https://www.macchiedinkiostro.com/2018/05/08/minala-al-96-gol-del-partenio-diventa-canzone/ Yes Yes No Trivial No
http://www.settimanalezona.com/notizia.php?id=9797 ? ? ? Dead link ? Unknown
http://djmagmalaysia.my/13/post/2020/03/exclusive-interview-with-b-goss.html Same as #1 ? Unknown
https://music.apple.com/de/album/regret/1569395787?i=1569396069&l=en No Apple Music No
https://music.apple.com/de/album/eyes-clear-feat-ghalil-einstein/1488215495?i=1488215826&l=en No Apple Music No
https://music.apple.com/de/album/whats-on-my-mind-feat-david-celine/1399474059?i=1399475561&l=en No Apple Music No
https://music.apple.com/de/album/eyes-clear-feat-ghalil-einstein/1488215495?i=1488215826&l=en No Apple Music No
https://music.apple.com/de/album/don-trap/1325375885?i=1325376143&l=en No Apple Music No
https://music.apple.com/de/album/we-gon-ride-feat-flo-rida-t-pain-j-rand-kriss-raize-edit-mix/1012363098?i=1012363617&l=en No Apple Music No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}.
Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:54, 27 September 2021 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICIAN. This looks like shameless self-promotion, and none of the sources appear to be very good ones. His role on Top DJ appears to have been a 30-second interview on one episode, giving his opinion about the contestants – he certainly was not one of the presenters or main judges, so his role on the show appears to be exaggerated. For anyone thinking, "wow, he's worked with some big names in Flo Rida and T-Pain"... he hasn't. He's simply remixed an existing track, "Ride" by J Rand featuring Flo Rida and T-Pain, and placed his name at the top of the credits, and the video for "his" new song intercuts scenes from the original J Rand video into some terrible acting from him and his celebrity friends. One of those friends is a football player from the top Italian football league, which is probably the major reason the video was played on MTV, rather than the song – the claim of being played on MTV claim may be true, but the one working citation just shows the lyrics of the track posted on the MTV website, which anyone can do, and the other citation is the personal website of an Italian TV football pundit, so probably not the best authority on MTV screenings. Richard3120 ( talk) 00:55, 28 September 2021 (UTC) reply
I agree that the claims to notability are heavily exaggerated upon closer inspection and that the celebrity name dropping borders on WP:NOTINHERITED. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:21, 28 September 2021 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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