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The result was delete. — Cryptic 22:12, 20 January 2015 (UTC) reply

Ann Rubin

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Cannot find evidence of her Emmy wins, and as a BLP article they should cited. If they are removed, she fails GNG as simply being another TV journalist. Primefac ( talk) 21:02, 27 December 2014 (UTC) reply

  • See this and this. I'm not sure if "three regional Emmys, awards from the Associated Press, the Missouri Broadcaster's Association and Gannett" are enough to get her over the notability threshold but evidence was easy enough to find. Stlwart 111 00:00, 28 December 2014 (UTC) reply
I had found those sources before I made the AfD, and maybe I'm being too picky, but anyone can claim to have won an Emmy. Besides, the KTVU article is almost a primary source since it is not independent of the subject. I suppose I was looking for a source that says in what categories she specifically won the Emmys. Primefac ( talk) 00:07, 28 December 2014 (UTC) reply
And such a source may not exist. I think those (especially the independent stltoday source) are enough as "evidence" (per WP:V) but they don't do much in terms of WP:N. You were right to bring it here, I think, I just thought that was worth clearing up. Stlwart 111 00:13, 28 December 2014 (UTC) reply
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  • Comment Here is an archive of the 2004 Emmy cited (dead link) in the article. The Emmy archives site is here, but seems to be under construction. I think we should just assume that she did actually win those awards, and then if the article survives someone can check that page, when it's finished. –  Margin1522 ( talk) 19:03, 4 January 2015 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete General-assignment TV reporter; no evidence of notability. About the claimed Emmy awards: assuming they are real, local awards don't do much for notability. And in any case, without a citation we can't tell if the awards went to her as an individual, or to a team she was part of. -- MelanieN ( talk) 02:06, 17 January 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. No indication of notability, even assuming local emmy win.  B E C K Y S A Y L E 14:07, 20 January 2015 (UTC) reply
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. — Cryptic 22:12, 20 January 2015 (UTC) reply

Ann Rubin

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Cannot find evidence of her Emmy wins, and as a BLP article they should cited. If they are removed, she fails GNG as simply being another TV journalist. Primefac ( talk) 21:02, 27 December 2014 (UTC) reply

  • See this and this. I'm not sure if "three regional Emmys, awards from the Associated Press, the Missouri Broadcaster's Association and Gannett" are enough to get her over the notability threshold but evidence was easy enough to find. Stlwart 111 00:00, 28 December 2014 (UTC) reply
I had found those sources before I made the AfD, and maybe I'm being too picky, but anyone can claim to have won an Emmy. Besides, the KTVU article is almost a primary source since it is not independent of the subject. I suppose I was looking for a source that says in what categories she specifically won the Emmys. Primefac ( talk) 00:07, 28 December 2014 (UTC) reply
And such a source may not exist. I think those (especially the independent stltoday source) are enough as "evidence" (per WP:V) but they don't do much in terms of WP:N. You were right to bring it here, I think, I just thought that was worth clearing up. Stlwart 111 00:13, 28 December 2014 (UTC) reply
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein  12:12, 4 January 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment Here is an archive of the 2004 Emmy cited (dead link) in the article. The Emmy archives site is here, but seems to be under construction. I think we should just assume that she did actually win those awards, and then if the article survives someone can check that page, when it's finished. –  Margin1522 ( talk) 19:03, 4 January 2015 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NORTH AMERICA 1000 00:18, 12 January 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete General-assignment TV reporter; no evidence of notability. About the claimed Emmy awards: assuming they are real, local awards don't do much for notability. And in any case, without a citation we can't tell if the awards went to her as an individual, or to a team she was part of. -- MelanieN ( talk) 02:06, 17 January 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. No indication of notability, even assuming local emmy win.  B E C K Y S A Y L E 14:07, 20 January 2015 (UTC) reply
The above deletion debate is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the talk page of either this nomination or the nominated user). No further edits should be made to this page.

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