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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 15:04, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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Person doesn't appear to be notable enough to have a own article. The article has multiple issues, lacks of good references and fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Lorik17 ( talk) 16:37, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete per WP:SIGCOV and WP:NOTMEMORIAL. There is literally a memorial page as a source. In 2021, everybody knows Wikipedia is not Find A Grave, Facebook, or Geneology.com. Bearian ( talk) 14:44, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep or redirect I have added a citation from the LA Times. I'm concerned this is a WP:BIO1E but I'm unsure where to redirect to. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:12, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment She had a career. She is on Spotify, probably signed. It is probably worth tyring to find an Albanian speaker to ferret out some sources. The music is very much of that type. scope_creep Talk 17:44, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment-- coverage is not super overwhelming but the English sources describe her as a popular Albanian singer, our Albanian article on her seems more lengthy (though poorly sourced) and I'm reluctant to !vote 'delete' without a search conducted in LOTEs, which may not be forthcoming. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:02, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- No consensus I can see both sides of this, but the sources in the article (NYT, LATimes, Politico) are heavy weight and this is a strong indication other RS had covered the individual. Usually the "sources may exist" argument is made without any supporting evidence, but in this case I think there is reason to believe sources probably exist. The article also receives ~250 views a month, not huge, but people are looking for information about the individual 16yrs after their death; to me this is another indication the person is notable and sources would exist.
- The delete arguments are valid though, no sources have been brought forward to show the subject has SIGCOV, 1E hasn't been refuted, and NOTMEMORIAL is a valid argument. I do not believe there will be a consensus to delete here, but I don't think there are sourcs at this time for a solid Keep. I tagged the article as needing citations. This can be revisited at another time with fresh eyes and language skills. // Timothy :: talk 18:44, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep I find myself settling into keep on a lot of the edge cases where there is likely more coverage in other language sources. An Albanian singer that gets mentioned in big time sources almost certainly has huge coverage in their own language. ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 14:41, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Spartaz Humbug! 15:04, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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Person doesn't appear to be notable enough to have a own article. The article has multiple issues, lacks of good references and fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Lorik17 ( talk) 16:37, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 17:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 17:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albania-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 17:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SIGCOV and WP:NOTMEMORIAL. There is literally a memorial page as a source. In 2021, everybody knows Wikipedia is not Find A Grave, Facebook, or Geneology.com. Bearian ( talk) 14:44, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep or redirect I have added a citation from the LA Times. I'm concerned this is a WP:BIO1E but I'm unsure where to redirect to. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:12, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 00:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment She had a career. She is on Spotify, probably signed. It is probably worth tyring to find an Albanian speaker to ferret out some sources. The music is very much of that type. scope_creep Talk 17:44, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 23:54, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 23:54, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- Comment-- coverage is not super overwhelming but the English sources describe her as a popular Albanian singer, our Albanian article on her seems more lengthy (though poorly sourced) and I'm reluctant to !vote 'delete' without a search conducted in LOTEs, which may not be forthcoming. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:02, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- No consensus I can see both sides of this, but the sources in the article (NYT, LATimes, Politico) are heavy weight and this is a strong indication other RS had covered the individual. Usually the "sources may exist" argument is made without any supporting evidence, but in this case I think there is reason to believe sources probably exist. The article also receives ~250 views a month, not huge, but people are looking for information about the individual 16yrs after their death; to me this is another indication the person is notable and sources would exist.
- The delete arguments are valid though, no sources have been brought forward to show the subject has SIGCOV, 1E hasn't been refuted, and NOTMEMORIAL is a valid argument. I do not believe there will be a consensus to delete here, but I don't think there are sourcs at this time for a solid Keep. I tagged the article as needing citations. This can be revisited at another time with fresh eyes and language skills. // Timothy :: talk 18:44, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Keep I find myself settling into keep on a lot of the edge cases where there is likely more coverage in other language sources. An Albanian singer that gets mentioned in big time sources almost certainly has huge coverage in their own language. ScottishFinnishRadish ( talk) 14:41, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.