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The result was merge to List of Middle-earth rivers. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 15:55, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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Yes, Tolkien works have the distinction of being the most studied and written about out of all fantasy fandom. But I don't think a fictional river, even Tolkien's, passes WP:GNG/ WP:NFICTION. All sources I see are primary references/description. Because, let's face it, the most you could try to write about it's real world connection is a sentence on two about its name, and I don't even see good sources for this. There is also the so-far unreferenced section in the article about proposal to name a real world object after it, but at best it's WP:ONEEVENT, and at worst, it's WP:TRIVIA. This fact may be used in a sentence about Tolkien's works impact in general, perhaps, but it's hard to argue a fictional river is notable because few fans proposed (and failed) to name a real object after it. (There is also a distinct possibility the discussion about whether real objects in NZ could be renamed after Tolkien's works might itself be notable, but again, WP:NOTINHERITED). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:48, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
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- Merge some token text to List_of_Middle-earth_rivers. -- Izno ( talk) 14:45, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - There is certainly going to be more notable minutia for Middle Earth than other series, but this is not one of them. TTN ( talk) 17:48, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Merge I don't believe this subject warrants a stand-alone article, but a mention in a list about Middle Earth geography is justifiable. Hog Farm ( talk) 3:26, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Middle-earth rivers. Goustien ( talk) 05:48, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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The result was merge to List of Middle-earth rivers. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 15:55, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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Yes, Tolkien works have the distinction of being the most studied and written about out of all fantasy fandom. But I don't think a fictional river, even Tolkien's, passes WP:GNG/ WP:NFICTION. All sources I see are primary references/description. Because, let's face it, the most you could try to write about it's real world connection is a sentence on two about its name, and I don't even see good sources for this. There is also the so-far unreferenced section in the article about proposal to name a real world object after it, but at best it's WP:ONEEVENT, and at worst, it's WP:TRIVIA. This fact may be used in a sentence about Tolkien's works impact in general, perhaps, but it's hard to argue a fictional river is notable because few fans proposed (and failed) to name a real object after it. (There is also a distinct possibility the discussion about whether real objects in NZ could be renamed after Tolkien's works might itself be notable, but again, WP:NOTINHERITED). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:48, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:48, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Merge some token text to List_of_Middle-earth_rivers. -- Izno ( talk) 14:45, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - There is certainly going to be more notable minutia for Middle Earth than other series, but this is not one of them. TTN ( talk) 17:48, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Merge I don't believe this subject warrants a stand-alone article, but a mention in a list about Middle Earth geography is justifiable. Hog Farm ( talk) 3:26, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Middle-earth rivers. Goustien ( talk) 05:48, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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