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The result was no consensus. Coffee // have a cup // beans // 02:07, 3 April 2015 (UTC) reply

Aleksander Olszyński Tenement in Bydgoszcz

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The notability of this building is not clearly stated. There are no supporting references that provide notability either. The only references are from Polish telephone books (proving only of its existence) and an ambiguous reference on a random carpenter. This seems entirely non-notable. Jcmcc450 ( talk) 18:59, 11 March 2015 (UTC) reply

  • Delete – This is one of a whole group of articles created over the last week. See the categories Gdanska street in Bydgoszcz, Buildings and structures in Bydgoszcz, Tenements in Poland. Some of them look notable, but I don't know about this one. It is described on the talk page as typical 19th century architecture. It's not without references – according to Google Translate, the books cited are Gdansk Street Historical Guide and Chronicle Bydgoszcz by the Society of Friends of the City of Bydgoszcz. But a historical guide to the street doesn't seem like enough to meet notability. Nor does it seem important enough to merge to Gdanska Street in Bydgoszcz. –  Margin1522 ( talk) 23:23, 11 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - For the reasons stated above--there's simply not enough support for notability. Fisheriesmgmt ( talk) 00:38, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 15:57, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 15:57, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Not even listed as a heritage building by the Polish government, which lists more buildings than most countries in the world (Bydgoszcz has about 250 listed buildings). Just a fairly ordinary late 19th century urban building. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 16:01, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. A historic building from the 19th century with traceable background supported by references. I see nothing wrong with having it here. – The user needs to learn how to format properly. Poeticbent talk 17:19, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Keep A historic building like many others in Bydgoszcz, well documented in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dthomsen8 ( talkcontribs)
Comment But what is the historical value? Where are the references to its value? This article does not establish either of those. What stops any random passerby from declaring a building "historical" and making a page about it? Jcmcc450 ( talk) 01:47, 13 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Weak delete. No evidence it is recognize by a monument or mention in more than passing by reliable sources. Doesn't exist on pl wiki ( pl:Ulica_Gdańska_w_Bydgoszczy).At best, merge to Gdańska street in Bydgoszcz which should be created. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:19, 13 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. This is ridiculous. Category:Gdanska street in Bydgoszcz. An apparent attempt to write an article on every single building on the street. There are 57 articles here. The Polish government only lists 23 buildings on this street as heritage buildings, and not all of them are probably worthy of articles (as an author of several architectural guides to Polish cities I can testify to the fact that the Polish government lists many rather underwhelming buildings!). I'm sure the creator's intentions are worthy, but this is rather over the top. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 15:06, 13 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Coffee // have a cup // beans // 02:03, 19 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle ( talk) 03:42, 26 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Wow. It was not clear at first why this was written, but it at least alleges that this is a notable building. This is truly one of the most marginal cases I've seen at AfD in months; no !vote for me. Can it be saved? Bearian ( talk) 19:23, 27 March 2015 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Coffee // have a cup // beans // 02:07, 3 April 2015 (UTC) reply

Aleksander Olszyński Tenement in Bydgoszcz

Aleksander Olszyński Tenement in Bydgoszcz (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
(Find sources:  Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

The notability of this building is not clearly stated. There are no supporting references that provide notability either. The only references are from Polish telephone books (proving only of its existence) and an ambiguous reference on a random carpenter. This seems entirely non-notable. Jcmcc450 ( talk) 18:59, 11 March 2015 (UTC) reply

  • Delete – This is one of a whole group of articles created over the last week. See the categories Gdanska street in Bydgoszcz, Buildings and structures in Bydgoszcz, Tenements in Poland. Some of them look notable, but I don't know about this one. It is described on the talk page as typical 19th century architecture. It's not without references – according to Google Translate, the books cited are Gdansk Street Historical Guide and Chronicle Bydgoszcz by the Society of Friends of the City of Bydgoszcz. But a historical guide to the street doesn't seem like enough to meet notability. Nor does it seem important enough to merge to Gdanska Street in Bydgoszcz. –  Margin1522 ( talk) 23:23, 11 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - For the reasons stated above--there's simply not enough support for notability. Fisheriesmgmt ( talk) 00:38, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 15:57, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 15:57, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Not even listed as a heritage building by the Polish government, which lists more buildings than most countries in the world (Bydgoszcz has about 250 listed buildings). Just a fairly ordinary late 19th century urban building. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 16:01, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. A historic building from the 19th century with traceable background supported by references. I see nothing wrong with having it here. – The user needs to learn how to format properly. Poeticbent talk 17:19, 12 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Keep A historic building like many others in Bydgoszcz, well documented in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dthomsen8 ( talkcontribs)
Comment But what is the historical value? Where are the references to its value? This article does not establish either of those. What stops any random passerby from declaring a building "historical" and making a page about it? Jcmcc450 ( talk) 01:47, 13 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Weak delete. No evidence it is recognize by a monument or mention in more than passing by reliable sources. Doesn't exist on pl wiki ( pl:Ulica_Gdańska_w_Bydgoszczy).At best, merge to Gdańska street in Bydgoszcz which should be created. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:19, 13 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. This is ridiculous. Category:Gdanska street in Bydgoszcz. An apparent attempt to write an article on every single building on the street. There are 57 articles here. The Polish government only lists 23 buildings on this street as heritage buildings, and not all of them are probably worthy of articles (as an author of several architectural guides to Polish cities I can testify to the fact that the Polish government lists many rather underwhelming buildings!). I'm sure the creator's intentions are worthy, but this is rather over the top. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 15:06, 13 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Coffee // have a cup // beans // 02:03, 19 March 2015 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle ( talk) 03:42, 26 March 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Wow. It was not clear at first why this was written, but it at least alleges that this is a notable building. This is truly one of the most marginal cases I've seen at AfD in months; no !vote for me. Can it be saved? Bearian ( talk) 19:23, 27 March 2015 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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