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The result was keep. ✗ plicit 00:20, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
Adrian Stoica
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Just a dog trainer who has participated in some TV shows. I don't see much notability. By looking up Adrian Stoica on Google and scrolling down a bit I already get results from different people named this way. I also found no sources from 2022 or before talking about him after looking up his name. I had to use a more specific search in Romanian and got some sources which don't look like the most appropriate [1] [2] [3]. I do not believe this person is notable. Super Dromaeosaurus ( talk) 00:17, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Italy, Romania, and United States of America. Super Dromaeosaurus ( talk) 00:17, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Animal. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:38, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- keep notability asserted: "six-time disc dog world champion", won a talent show and continues to compete. Also, there is enough detailed coverage, e.g., here. - Altenmann >talk 02:48, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Merge into America's Got Talent (season 18). This strikes me as WP:1E. Unless there is significant coverage separate to the show, the present article, including Stoica's background and linking his participation in America's Got Talent: Fantasy League, could be adequately summarised in a few sentences in America's Got Talent (season 18). IgnatiusofLondon ( talk) 20:56, 3 February 2024 (UTC)- IgnatiusofLondon ( talk · contribs), I found Italian and Romanian sources from before his 2023 appearance on America's Got Talent (season 18). They are La Provincia 2014, Sala 2018, and Morosi 2016, and La Stampa 2017. Cunard ( talk) 10:56, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Cunard's excellent sourcefinding. IgnatiusofLondon ( talk) 11:41, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent
reliable sources. The subject passes
Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
SourcesPeople are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
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"Con un cane e un frisbee fino al tetto d'Europa. Splendida doppietta per Carugo e Mariano Brillano Adrian Stoica e Paola Bonomo" [With a dog and a Frisbee to the roof of Europe. Splendid double for Carugo and Mariano Brillano, Adrian Stoica, and Paola Bonomo].
La Provincia (in Italian). 2014-05-24. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The page says the full article will be available in the printed edition on newsstands. The article notes: "Adrian Stoica, 36 anni, carughese di origini rumene, e Paola Bonomo marianese 35enne, si sono aggiudicati rispettivamente i titoli di campione europeo e campionessa italiana nella disciplina, nella specialità Sky Awi. Particolare è la storia di Adrian che ha trasformato una passione in un lavoro. «Sono nato in Romania – racconta Stoica – sono arrivato in Italia a 20 anni e ho lavorato per 14 anni in un’azienda locale specializzata nella produzione di mattonelle»."
From Google Translate: "Adrian Stoica, 36 years old, from Carugha of Romanian origins, and Paola Bonomo from Mariana, 35 years old, won the titles of European champion and Italian champion respectively in the discipline, in the Sky Awi specialty. The story of Adrian is particular, as he transformed a passion into a job. «I was born in Romania – says Stoica – I arrived in Italy at the age of 20 and worked for 14 years in a local company specialized in the production of tiles»."
- Sala, Alessandro (2018-09-03).
"Adrian Stoica: Dog trainer, campione mondiale ed europeo di «disc dog»" [Adrian Stoica: Dog trainer, world and European «disc dog» champion].
Corriere della Sera (in Italian). Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The article notes: "Dog Trainer esperto in «divertimento del cane e con il cane», attraverso la sua specializzazione sul Gioco e sugli Sport cinofili. Ex stuntman e da sempre sportivo, grazie al Disc Dog Adrian è diventato in breve tempo un professionista riconosciuto ben oltre l’Europa: negli ultimi 5 anni ha conquistato con la sua Rory due titoli di Campione del Mondo (UFO: Open 2016 e Throw & Catch 2014) e con vari cani ben 22 coppe di Campione Europeo nelle varie federazioni internazionali."
From Google Translate: "Dog Trainer expert in «fun for the dog and with the dog», through his specialization in games and dog sports. A former stuntman and always a sportsman, thanks to the Disc Dog Adrian has quickly become a professional recognized far beyond Europe: in the last 5 years he has won two World Champion titles with his Rory (UFO: Open 2016 and Throw & Catch 2014) and with various dogs 22 European Champion Cups in the various international federations."
- Morosi, Silvia (2016-09-15).
"Acrobazie a Quattro Zampe" [Four-Legged Stunts].
Corriere della Sera (in Italian). Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The article notes: "Un nuovo record per Adrian Stoica e Rory. La coppia a sei zampe, formata da un istruttore e dal suo animale, si è vista confermare anche nel 2016 il titolo di Campioni Europei nel «Disc dog» (qui vi avevamo raccontato la Disc dog mania in Italia). Quest’anno l’impresa è stata da record: i due hanno, infatti, conquistato i sei titoli europei disponibili nelle tre federazioni internazionali più prestigiose e giocate in Europa: AWI, UFO e Skyhoundz."
From Google Translate: "A new record for Adrian Stoica and Rory. The six-legged couple, made up of an instructor and his animal, saw their title of European Champions in the «Disc dog» confirmed again in 2016 (here we told you about the Disc dog mania in Italy). This year the feat was record-breaking: the two have, in fact, won the six European titles available in the three most prestigious international federations played in Europe: AWI, UFO and Skyhoundz."
- Cohn, Paulette (2023-09-28).
"Why Will Season 18 'AGT' Winner Adrian Stoica Buy Sheep With His $1 Million Prize?".
Parade. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The article notes: "Adrian has eight dogs that he works with – they can work individually or separately like we saw with Hurricane on AGT, but he hasn’t decided yet if he is going to bring over another of his dogs for the Las Vegas act. But it's not a problem as Hurricane can work with all his other dogs."
- Johnson, Lottie Elizabeth (2024-01-09).
"This dog act recently won 'America's Got Talent.' Now, it's competing for another win".
Deseret News. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The article notes: "For the semifinal appearance, Stoica and Hurricane performed a routine where Stoica attempts to do garden work — a comedic bit that led the judges to proclaim that the act is “Vegas ready,” per the entertainment site Gold Derby. Stoica and Hurricane’s act during the finals, set to Queen’s “Crazy Little Thing Called Love,” showed Hurricane helping Stoica prep for a date with Vergara."
- Johnson, Lottie Elizabeth (2023-09-27).
"And the winner of 'America's Got Talent' is ..."
Deseret News. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The article notes: "Now, with this victory, Stoica has earned the $1 million prize and a headlining slot in Las Vegas. According to his “AGT” bio, Stoica has been performing with Hurricane for roughly eight years. The act previously reached the semifinals of “Italia’s Got Talent” in 2017 and participated in “Romania’s Got Talent” in 2018 and 2022."
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"Ei sunt românii care au impresionat lumea întreagă la GOT TALENT! Cu ce prestații au uimit juriul" [They are the Romanians who impressed the whole world at GOT TALENT! With what performances they amazed the jury] (in Romanian).
Pro TV. 2020-01-21. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The article notes: "În anul 2017, românii au ajuns și la “Italienii au talent”: Adrian Stoica, un dresor de câini, a primit patru de “Da” din partea juriului, datorită numărului său de pe scenă. Un an mai târziu, Adrian Stoica a participat și la “Românii au talent”."
From Google Translate: "In 2017, the Romanians also reached "Italians have talent": Adrian Stoica, a dog trainer, received four "Yes" from the jury, thanks to his number on stage. A year later, Adrian Stoica also participated in "Romanians have talent"."
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"Italia's Got Talent, le esibizioni migliori della quinta puntata. Sia Claudio Bisio sia Frank Matano trovano la loro esibizione del cuore e schiacciano il rispettivo golden buzzer" [Italia's Got Talent, the best performances of the fifth episode. Both Claudio Bisio and Frank Matano find their heartfelt performance and crush their respective golden buzzer].
La Stampa (in Italian). 2017-03-24. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The article notes: "La coreografia canina di Adrian Stoica. Parte seduto su un divano, deciso a mangiarsi un paninazzo di quelli che si ricordano. Poi, però, a fare compagnia ad Adrian Stoica sul palco (e a «ricordargli» della dieta in corso) arrivano i suoi due meravigliosi cani. Con cui, in pratica, l’uomo mette in scena una divertente coreografia sulla difficoltà a rimanere in forma. Una performance che sorprende e che convince."
From Google Translate: "Adrian Stoica's canine choreography. He leaves sitting on a sofa, determined to eat a sandwich of the ones he remembers. Then, however, his two wonderful dogs arrive to keep Adrian Stoica company on stage (and to "remind" him of his ongoing diet). With which, in practice, the man stages a fun choreography on the difficulty of staying fit. A performance that surprises and convinces."
- Keep per the claims of the other keeps. Plus, he is one of the known winners of America's Got Talent. -- Rtkat3 ( talk) 15:53, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - It is shown that the article passes notability guidelines through previous editors' responses.
- 2600:1006:B102:8580:41E3:82B1:A61:25EB ( talk) 16:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. ✗ plicit 00:20, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
Adrian Stoica
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Just a dog trainer who has participated in some TV shows. I don't see much notability. By looking up Adrian Stoica on Google and scrolling down a bit I already get results from different people named this way. I also found no sources from 2022 or before talking about him after looking up his name. I had to use a more specific search in Romanian and got some sources which don't look like the most appropriate [1] [2] [3]. I do not believe this person is notable. Super Dromaeosaurus ( talk) 00:17, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Italy, Romania, and United States of America. Super Dromaeosaurus ( talk) 00:17, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Animal. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:38, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- keep notability asserted: "six-time disc dog world champion", won a talent show and continues to compete. Also, there is enough detailed coverage, e.g., here. - Altenmann >talk 02:48, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Merge into America's Got Talent (season 18). This strikes me as WP:1E. Unless there is significant coverage separate to the show, the present article, including Stoica's background and linking his participation in America's Got Talent: Fantasy League, could be adequately summarised in a few sentences in America's Got Talent (season 18). IgnatiusofLondon ( talk) 20:56, 3 February 2024 (UTC)- IgnatiusofLondon ( talk · contribs), I found Italian and Romanian sources from before his 2023 appearance on America's Got Talent (season 18). They are La Provincia 2014, Sala 2018, and Morosi 2016, and La Stampa 2017. Cunard ( talk) 10:56, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Cunard's excellent sourcefinding. IgnatiusofLondon ( talk) 11:41, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent
reliable sources. The subject passes
Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
SourcesPeople are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
-
"Con un cane e un frisbee fino al tetto d'Europa. Splendida doppietta per Carugo e Mariano Brillano Adrian Stoica e Paola Bonomo" [With a dog and a Frisbee to the roof of Europe. Splendid double for Carugo and Mariano Brillano, Adrian Stoica, and Paola Bonomo].
La Provincia (in Italian). 2014-05-24. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The page says the full article will be available in the printed edition on newsstands. The article notes: "Adrian Stoica, 36 anni, carughese di origini rumene, e Paola Bonomo marianese 35enne, si sono aggiudicati rispettivamente i titoli di campione europeo e campionessa italiana nella disciplina, nella specialità Sky Awi. Particolare è la storia di Adrian che ha trasformato una passione in un lavoro. «Sono nato in Romania – racconta Stoica – sono arrivato in Italia a 20 anni e ho lavorato per 14 anni in un’azienda locale specializzata nella produzione di mattonelle»."
From Google Translate: "Adrian Stoica, 36 years old, from Carugha of Romanian origins, and Paola Bonomo from Mariana, 35 years old, won the titles of European champion and Italian champion respectively in the discipline, in the Sky Awi specialty. The story of Adrian is particular, as he transformed a passion into a job. «I was born in Romania – says Stoica – I arrived in Italy at the age of 20 and worked for 14 years in a local company specialized in the production of tiles»."
- Sala, Alessandro (2018-09-03).
"Adrian Stoica: Dog trainer, campione mondiale ed europeo di «disc dog»" [Adrian Stoica: Dog trainer, world and European «disc dog» champion].
Corriere della Sera (in Italian). Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The article notes: "Dog Trainer esperto in «divertimento del cane e con il cane», attraverso la sua specializzazione sul Gioco e sugli Sport cinofili. Ex stuntman e da sempre sportivo, grazie al Disc Dog Adrian è diventato in breve tempo un professionista riconosciuto ben oltre l’Europa: negli ultimi 5 anni ha conquistato con la sua Rory due titoli di Campione del Mondo (UFO: Open 2016 e Throw & Catch 2014) e con vari cani ben 22 coppe di Campione Europeo nelle varie federazioni internazionali."
From Google Translate: "Dog Trainer expert in «fun for the dog and with the dog», through his specialization in games and dog sports. A former stuntman and always a sportsman, thanks to the Disc Dog Adrian has quickly become a professional recognized far beyond Europe: in the last 5 years he has won two World Champion titles with his Rory (UFO: Open 2016 and Throw & Catch 2014) and with various dogs 22 European Champion Cups in the various international federations."
- Morosi, Silvia (2016-09-15).
"Acrobazie a Quattro Zampe" [Four-Legged Stunts].
Corriere della Sera (in Italian). Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The article notes: "Un nuovo record per Adrian Stoica e Rory. La coppia a sei zampe, formata da un istruttore e dal suo animale, si è vista confermare anche nel 2016 il titolo di Campioni Europei nel «Disc dog» (qui vi avevamo raccontato la Disc dog mania in Italia). Quest’anno l’impresa è stata da record: i due hanno, infatti, conquistato i sei titoli europei disponibili nelle tre federazioni internazionali più prestigiose e giocate in Europa: AWI, UFO e Skyhoundz."
From Google Translate: "A new record for Adrian Stoica and Rory. The six-legged couple, made up of an instructor and his animal, saw their title of European Champions in the «Disc dog» confirmed again in 2016 (here we told you about the Disc dog mania in Italy). This year the feat was record-breaking: the two have, in fact, won the six European titles available in the three most prestigious international federations played in Europe: AWI, UFO and Skyhoundz."
- Cohn, Paulette (2023-09-28).
"Why Will Season 18 'AGT' Winner Adrian Stoica Buy Sheep With His $1 Million Prize?".
Parade. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The article notes: "Adrian has eight dogs that he works with – they can work individually or separately like we saw with Hurricane on AGT, but he hasn’t decided yet if he is going to bring over another of his dogs for the Las Vegas act. But it's not a problem as Hurricane can work with all his other dogs."
- Johnson, Lottie Elizabeth (2024-01-09).
"This dog act recently won 'America's Got Talent.' Now, it's competing for another win".
Deseret News. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The article notes: "For the semifinal appearance, Stoica and Hurricane performed a routine where Stoica attempts to do garden work — a comedic bit that led the judges to proclaim that the act is “Vegas ready,” per the entertainment site Gold Derby. Stoica and Hurricane’s act during the finals, set to Queen’s “Crazy Little Thing Called Love,” showed Hurricane helping Stoica prep for a date with Vergara."
- Johnson, Lottie Elizabeth (2023-09-27).
"And the winner of 'America's Got Talent' is ..."
Deseret News. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The article notes: "Now, with this victory, Stoica has earned the $1 million prize and a headlining slot in Las Vegas. According to his “AGT” bio, Stoica has been performing with Hurricane for roughly eight years. The act previously reached the semifinals of “Italia’s Got Talent” in 2017 and participated in “Romania’s Got Talent” in 2018 and 2022."
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"Ei sunt românii care au impresionat lumea întreagă la GOT TALENT! Cu ce prestații au uimit juriul" [They are the Romanians who impressed the whole world at GOT TALENT! With what performances they amazed the jury] (in Romanian).
Pro TV. 2020-01-21. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The article notes: "În anul 2017, românii au ajuns și la “Italienii au talent”: Adrian Stoica, un dresor de câini, a primit patru de “Da” din partea juriului, datorită numărului său de pe scenă. Un an mai târziu, Adrian Stoica a participat și la “Românii au talent”."
From Google Translate: "In 2017, the Romanians also reached "Italians have talent": Adrian Stoica, a dog trainer, received four "Yes" from the jury, thanks to his number on stage. A year later, Adrian Stoica also participated in "Romanians have talent"."
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"Italia's Got Talent, le esibizioni migliori della quinta puntata. Sia Claudio Bisio sia Frank Matano trovano la loro esibizione del cuore e schiacciano il rispettivo golden buzzer" [Italia's Got Talent, the best performances of the fifth episode. Both Claudio Bisio and Frank Matano find their heartfelt performance and crush their respective golden buzzer].
La Stampa (in Italian). 2017-03-24. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-06. Retrieved 2024-02-06.
The article notes: "La coreografia canina di Adrian Stoica. Parte seduto su un divano, deciso a mangiarsi un paninazzo di quelli che si ricordano. Poi, però, a fare compagnia ad Adrian Stoica sul palco (e a «ricordargli» della dieta in corso) arrivano i suoi due meravigliosi cani. Con cui, in pratica, l’uomo mette in scena una divertente coreografia sulla difficoltà a rimanere in forma. Una performance che sorprende e che convince."
From Google Translate: "Adrian Stoica's canine choreography. He leaves sitting on a sofa, determined to eat a sandwich of the ones he remembers. Then, however, his two wonderful dogs arrive to keep Adrian Stoica company on stage (and to "remind" him of his ongoing diet). With which, in practice, the man stages a fun choreography on the difficulty of staying fit. A performance that surprises and convinces."
- Keep per the claims of the other keeps. Plus, he is one of the known winners of America's Got Talent. -- Rtkat3 ( talk) 15:53, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - It is shown that the article passes notability guidelines through previous editors' responses.
- 2600:1006:B102:8580:41E3:82B1:A61:25EB ( talk) 16:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.