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The result was redirect to Wrestling at the 1904 Summer Olympics – Men's freestyle welterweight. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 02:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Abraham Mellinger
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Fails WP:GNG due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. BilledMammal ( talk) 02:06, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete No significant coverage available, sources on the page and any I can find are autogenerated pages with basic information listed or passing mentions, no significant coverage or indication of notability. Garnarblarnar ( talk) 04:23, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect IF nothing can be found on this chap to Wrestling at the 1904 Summer Olympics – Men's freestyle welterweight, per WP:ATD. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:39, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Was not a medaler, so does not meet Olympics notability. The reality of the 1904 games is that they were not really a true Olympics, more an adjunct to the St. Louis World's Fair, and were almost completely an American competition. Participation in them does not really even come close to rising to the level of notability. There is no good reason to redirect, it is not clear that this person was even close to being notable. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:01, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect He finished behind at least 4 other Americans after losing his first and only match. Doesn't meet any notability criteria. However, he did compete so a redirect to the article on the event seems reasonable. Papaursa ( talk) 04:19, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect per others above as a valid
alternative to deletion to where information can be found. In the future, editors can simply be bold and redirect these clearly non-notable articles once they have done a thorough
WP:BEFORE and only start an AfD if they get reverted. Would save all of us a lot of time.
Smartyllama (
talk) 15:11, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- I tried that with an article, and Lugnuts reverted it. So no, that is not a valid plan. Having a huge number of redirects that go to articles that say nothing of any substance about the person is not a good plan at all.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 18:38, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- And I've tried it with about 12 and he hasn't reverted a single one. Perhaps that shows the one you picked to redirect was a bad example, perhaps not. That's for AfD to decide at this point if you want to take it there. But it would be less of a burden on the community to just be bold and redirect it, then discuss if you're reverted rather than start a bunch of AfDs which are invariably going to end with the same result. Smartyllama ( talk) 21:52, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- I normally prod, and have no objection if a redirect is implemented, but in this case a discussion was desired. BilledMammal ( talk) 22:44, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- I tried that with an article, and Lugnuts reverted it. So no, that is not a valid plan. Having a huge number of redirects that go to articles that say nothing of any substance about the person is not a good plan at all.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 18:38, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to Wrestling at the 1904 Summer Olympics – Men's freestyle welterweight, per User:Lugnuts, others, and the WP:ATD. The ATD is an important WP policy. gidonb ( talk) 23:38, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Wrestling at the 1904 Summer Olympics – Men's freestyle welterweight. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 02:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
Abraham Mellinger
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Fails WP:GNG due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. BilledMammal ( talk) 02:06, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal ( talk) 02:06, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete No significant coverage available, sources on the page and any I can find are autogenerated pages with basic information listed or passing mentions, no significant coverage or indication of notability. Garnarblarnar ( talk) 04:23, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect IF nothing can be found on this chap to Wrestling at the 1904 Summer Olympics – Men's freestyle welterweight, per WP:ATD. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:39, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Was not a medaler, so does not meet Olympics notability. The reality of the 1904 games is that they were not really a true Olympics, more an adjunct to the St. Louis World's Fair, and were almost completely an American competition. Participation in them does not really even come close to rising to the level of notability. There is no good reason to redirect, it is not clear that this person was even close to being notable. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:01, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect He finished behind at least 4 other Americans after losing his first and only match. Doesn't meet any notability criteria. However, he did compete so a redirect to the article on the event seems reasonable. Papaursa ( talk) 04:19, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect per others above as a valid
alternative to deletion to where information can be found. In the future, editors can simply be bold and redirect these clearly non-notable articles once they have done a thorough
WP:BEFORE and only start an AfD if they get reverted. Would save all of us a lot of time.
Smartyllama (
talk) 15:11, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- I tried that with an article, and Lugnuts reverted it. So no, that is not a valid plan. Having a huge number of redirects that go to articles that say nothing of any substance about the person is not a good plan at all.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 18:38, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- And I've tried it with about 12 and he hasn't reverted a single one. Perhaps that shows the one you picked to redirect was a bad example, perhaps not. That's for AfD to decide at this point if you want to take it there. But it would be less of a burden on the community to just be bold and redirect it, then discuss if you're reverted rather than start a bunch of AfDs which are invariably going to end with the same result. Smartyllama ( talk) 21:52, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- I normally prod, and have no objection if a redirect is implemented, but in this case a discussion was desired. BilledMammal ( talk) 22:44, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- I tried that with an article, and Lugnuts reverted it. So no, that is not a valid plan. Having a huge number of redirects that go to articles that say nothing of any substance about the person is not a good plan at all.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 18:38, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to Wrestling at the 1904 Summer Olympics – Men's freestyle welterweight, per User:Lugnuts, others, and the WP:ATD. The ATD is an important WP policy. gidonb ( talk) 23:38, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.